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  •  This could be a good thing (3+ / 0-)
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    War on Error, fumie, JesseCW

    For a Minister with a family who makes on the low end of the pay scale.

    A minister, wife and 2 kids with a pay of 1500 per month would have pay of 18k a year.

    If they now have to add in fair market rent value to earned income, say 1k per month, that would raise income to 30k a year.

    BUT WAIT!! for a family of 4 that 30k is a write off with standard deductions and personal exemptions.

    And the real good news?

    The addition of the housing income will bring the family up near the max of earned income credit.

    A lower income minister and his/her family may come out ahead.

    •  Time for churches (2+ / 0-)
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      BPARTR, J Rae

      to pay a living wage then, just like Wal-Mart, which at least provides some tangible benefits to its, errrrr, parishioners.

      Salvation inside, new lower prices everyday!

      •  You do grasp the difference, I hope... (2+ / 0-)
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        TrueBlueMajority, J Rae

        between a global megacorp that makes billions upon billions in profits every year, and tiny institutions that are sustained largely on the donations of people who choose to donate what they can.

        And as for benefits to... errr...

        We're the people who folks that are organizing against the death penalty come to, looking for support and public voices that will get listened to. Just a for example. And the place that families that are down and out come to find some access to warm clothing and food and housing (only some of which we can provide--because funds are desperately short--but we provide them assistance in finding the public (and non-public) resources that can help them, that they are incapable (based on the evidence and experience...) of finding and navigating on their own.

        And so on.

        "Be just and good." John Adams to Thomas Jefferson

        by ogre on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 07:17:05 AM PST

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        •  You mean, the difference between a transnational (0+ / 0-)

          megacorp like the Roman Catholic Church and a transnational megacorp like Wal-Mart?

          Yes.  One is at least notionally subject to taxation.

          What you do is try to earn a living.  You tell fairy tales and people give you a check for it.

          There's nothing wrong with that.  Storytellers should be free to find a paying audience.

          But it's just another business activity at the end of the day.

          "I read New republic and Nation/I've learned to take every view.." P. Ochs

          by JesseCW on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 08:15:22 AM PST

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          •  Faulty assumption (0+ / 0-)

            Fairy tales?

            That might be a fair (harsh, but fair) critique for some traditions.

            But not for others.

            Not mine. If I tried to teach or preach the traditional magical stories (or other magical stories) about Jesus or some other figure, my congregation would revolt and run me out on a rail.

            Many of them are Atheists and Humanists.

            You're projecting a single story onto all religion, and a simplistic understanding of it, as well.

            "Be just and good." John Adams to Thomas Jefferson

            by ogre on Sat Nov 23, 2013 at 08:52:15 AM PST

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    •  You Have that Backward (2+ / 0-)
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      ogre, TrueBlueMajority

      More income means less EIC.  At 30K, a family is beginning to get close to being disqualified completely from receiving it.

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