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  •  Umbrage and loud protestations - oh my (4+ / 0-)

    I was responding to your comment by paraphrasing Delphine's excellent comment.  She's right.  Every time you write a diary with the same premise, the people who disagree with that premise have a right to speak - whether you like them or not.  It's not about you, it's about what you write - and that's exactly as it should be.

    You have your own website (which you link to in every diary) where you can voice your opinion and ban anyone you wish who disagrees with you.  On this site, if I agree or disagree with a diary or a comment, I am allowed to do so without your (or your "Fab-30's") permission.  On this site, you actually have the right to read and comment on Delphine's diaries; the fact that you choose not to says more about you than it does her diaries - and that too is exactly as it should be.

    Looking through the bent backed tulips, To see how the other half lives, Looking through a glass onion - John Lennon and Paul McCartney

    by Hey338Too on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 08:21:49 PM PST

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    •  If I close my eyes I can hear that as an (0+ / 0-)

      impassioned speech! The indignation; the almost saving-the-world (Daily Kos?) from (whatever) feels so real.  Very well done.

      BTW, read what I always write.  If the fab-six is so disturbed with what I write, why do they keep visiting my diaries?  I think that's a logical question.

      As to why I don't visit diaries of the fab-six, well, again, if I've formed a negative opinion of them, why would I have any interest in visiting their diaries when there are so many great writers here?

      What does that say about me?  That I like to read good stuff, I guess?

      Okay, I think we're done here.  Moving on.  We'll continue in my next diary, maybe?

      •  "BTW, read what I always write." (0+ / 0-)

        ROTFLMAO

        Now we're done here!

        Looking through the bent backed tulips, To see how the other half lives, Looking through a glass onion - John Lennon and Paul McCartney

        by Hey338Too on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 08:52:19 PM PST

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        •  Yep. We are. (2+ / 0-)
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          Ray Pensador, TheMomCat

          And those of us familiar with your username will be expecting you next time there's a diary that questions all the center-right views you espouse.

          Or one that talks about sockpuppets.

          Because you are, indeed, somewhat of a regular in Ray's diaries. If not by actual comments you post, by your silent tips of comments made by others who, coincidentally, are on the opposite side of Ray in any given subthread.

          And you also happen to be someone who got NR'd for uprating a slur made about Ray in a completely unrelated diary in which he wasn't even present to defend himself.

          So I think you might have some credibility issues when it comes to passing judgement on this particular diarist.




          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

          by DeadHead on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 11:29:17 PM PST

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      •  Perhaps the answer lies in the fact... (9+ / 0-)

        ...that people aren't just talking to you when they write a comment; they are talking to whoever is here: lurkers; new visitors; people who haven't visited your diaries before.

        It so happens that I don't disagree with everything in your diaries. In fact, I agree with a lot of what's in them. But I don't see much of anything new in those diaries. And other than a general call to activism—which large numbers of Kossacks are already engaged in across a broad range of issues—which you present in a know-it-all tone that often has an implicit undercurrent of I-can-see-it-why-can't-you-all, I don't see much in the way of specifics in that call.

        I don't know about your other raders, but I want something concrete, some substantial, something that says this (or that) should be the target of our actions. The list of possibilities is long, from police brutality to the cessation of fossil fuel extraction and burning, from populist economic restructuring to an end of imperial foreign policy. Which of those matter most in your view, and what kind of actions will most likely bear fruit?  

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 10:59:05 PM PST

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        •  MB, I don't know but something tells me that if (0+ / 0-)

          I made it a habit to write diaries criticizing Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, or Virginia Foxx, among others, all of the sudden these very high standards you've postulated here for my diaries would vanish... What do you think?

          Nevertheless, I would encourage you to take a look at these diaries:

          1. Kick-starting The Rebellion: Innovative Ways of Supporting The Movement at The Grass-roots Level
          2. I'm Spending The Biggest Shopping Day of The Year at Walmart!
          3. The SF Mission District: Standing Up Against Gentrification And Evictions
          4. My Experience At Occupy Oakland's 2nd Anniversary Rally Today
          5. "Rise Up, Shut it Down, Oakland is The People's Town"

          And I think you are familiar with the network of activists I'm been trying to organize; I think I have about 425 people who have signed up to my email list.

          Regarding this:

          But I don't see much of anything new in those diaries. And other than a general call to activism—which large numbers of Kossacks are already engaged in across a broad range of issues—which you present in a know-it-all tone that often has an implicit undercurrent of I-can-see-it-why-can't-you-all, I don't see much in the way of specifics in that call.
          Many have said the same thing about much of what dominates the front page, although I don't usually engage in that criticism because thus far I've felt free to write about things that interest me.

          And this:

          I don't know about your other raders, but I want something concrete, some substantial, something that says this (or that) should be the target of our actions...
          MB, as much as I would want to save the world, in reality I'm just one of many diarists here.  I believe I'm doing that which you said I'm not, but either way, don't you think you are setting up a pretty high bar for me...

          I'm just some dude writing stuff.  People can choose to read what I write, or not, and if I make suggestions, people can choose to collaborate with me or not.

          Finally, don't we have a pretty good system here to incentivize writers?  There is the rec list, tips, followers, etc., right?

          •  Ray... here's an example.... (4+ / 0-)

            Yesterday (or the day before?) you wrote a diary where you pushed local currency as a solution to some issues you raised. I understand what it is, but not a lot about how it can work. So, I asked a question or two, and others asked the same questions about how you would buy a car with local currency or pay your taxes with local currency to ensure you're able to collect Social Security in the future, etc. You didn't address any of those questions. If you're an expert on local currency, and embrace it as a solution, perhaps you could patiently explain how it would work? I think thats the type of thing Meteor Blades is talking about.

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