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  •  We may not know (18+ / 0-)

    how the word predatory "introduced itself into the court", but if it is fact that a 13-year-old and 41-year-old had sex there is no doubt that the 41-year-old should receive the harshest of sentences.  I don't care if the 13-year old stripped naked and threw herself on top of the guy, as the adult, it is his responsibility to stop the act, not to take advantage.  I would feel the same way if the genders were reversed, or the same, btw.

    •  Nice to know DKos is populated with... (0+ / 0-) and order conservatives.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 11:18:29 AM PST

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      •  Actually, (8+ / 0-)

        it would probably be the law and order conservatives who would make excuses for this 41-year-old rapist along with the judge and prosecutor.  But you knew that because you've been making excuses for them though out these comments.

      •  No. The law and order here was to say (2+ / 0-)
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        ceebee7, churchylafemme

        fuck you to the girl and send a message to every girl and every woman that their bodies are not their own. Sane laws exist to preserve a healthy society. There's no way in hell that protecting women and girls and justice are conservative values. How dare you suggest that I don't deserve protection of my own bodily independence?

      •  You're kidding, right? (10+ / 0-)

        The only appropriate response to a 13 year old stripping naked in front of a 42 year old adult in this sort of situation is to toss a blanket over him/her and calling his/her parents. If calling parents isn't an option, calling 911 and asking for a same sex officer to respond, preferably with CPS, is the next step.

        Conservative? Whatever. Toss around whatever labels you want.  Kids need protection. If a child is acting out like this, he/she needs intervention. It's a progressive value not to blame children when they act out inappropriately, not to take advantage of them, but to get them the help they need asap.

        © grover

        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 12:36:52 PM PST

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        •  No one is arguing that his actions aren't illegal (0+ / 0-)

          The grandparent poster argued that "the harshest of all penalties" should be applied to any activity of this sort. We agree the guy is guilty and must be punished: now, what should the penalties be?

          To the poster I was responding to, there can never be a mitigating circumstance and every instance of sexual behavior involving an underage teenager is exactly the same thing and should all be treated with the harshest possible penalties.

          Whether any actual physical or psychological harm ever came to the child or not, whether the child initiated it or was pursued by the adult, whether the adult even knew the child's age, whether there was force or violence involved or not, none of this is relevant to this poster during sentencing. Throw the book at the offender. 20 years in prison, minimum! Hell, that's the American way!

          That's the definition of a law-and-order conservative.

          (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
          Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

          by Sparhawk on Mon Nov 25, 2013 at 08:35:22 AM PST

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      •  there is something very wrong with you (1+ / 0-)
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        Adults take care of and protect children. They are not supposed to have sex with them. Why do you refuse to accept this?

        "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

        by thankgodforairamerica on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 05:39:51 PM PST

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      •  Thinking a grown man shouldn't have sex (2+ / 0-)
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        churchylafemme, Calfacon

        with a little girl makes one a "law and order conservative"? What the hell is wrong with you?

        "The Democrats are the lesser evil and that has to count for something. Good and evil aren't binary states. All of us are both good and evil. Being less evil is the trajectory of morality." --SC

        by tb92 on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 10:22:28 PM PST

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      •  WTF? n/t (0+ / 0-)

        -approaching Curmudgeonry with pleasure

        by Calfacon on Mon Nov 25, 2013 at 06:30:50 AM PST

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