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  •  They should be required to be certified teachers. (7+ / 0-)

    I know that idea isn't going anywhere fast, but I've known a couple mothers who home schooled their kids. Poor kids is all I can say. How can you teach children when you don't know the material yourself, when you barely managed to graduate from high school yourself.

    I'm sure there are some progressive folks out there who home school their kids, but it seems that the majority of home schoolers are motivated by one of two things: racism and the desire to keep their kids away from "those people", or religious indoctrination and the desire to shelter their kids from the heathens out in the real world.

    I'm sure home schooling might be a great thing for students who are relentlessly bullied, but generally speaking I hate even the concept of home schooling.

    •  No (7+ / 0-)

      No, new statistics demonstrate that homeschoolers choose to do so for a wide variety of reasons. Perhaps before declaring all homeschooling to be bad you should educate yourself about the reality of it.

      •  I have no problem with homeschooling (2+ / 0-)
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        There are certain areas of the country--including some here in North Carolina--where the schools are a bad joke.  

        But if there's a way short of background checks to prevent situations like what I mentioned, I'm all for it.

        •  Do you think (0+ / 0-)

          that problem is limited to the schools in NC?

        •  I fail to see (3+ / 0-)

          how background checks would be useful.  The only pertinent thing on a record would be charges of child abuse/neglect.  And if that's the case, the adult is already going to be in the system for being monitored by social services and the courts if children are ever returned to live with that adult.

          Adults who want to abuse children secretively have been and will do it whether they use homeschooling as a "cover" or not.  This type of problem existed before homeschooling and will continue to exist as long as there are creepy disgusting humans on this earth, which is to say forever.  And mostly they eventually get caught, hopefully sooner more than later.  Too bad we can't prevent every bad thing from ever happening to kids in the first place, but I don't want to live in that kind of a police state/dystopia.

      •  I'm well educated enough already (3+ / 0-)
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        to know that it is absurd for uneducated parents to be in charge of their childrens' educations. Between colleagues, acquaintances, relatives and friends, I've seen enough to know that at least here in this area (NC) the reasons I stated above are in fact the primary motivating factors for most home schoolers. One last note, please acknowledge that I didn't say that ALL homeschooling is bad. I did, in fact, state at least one case in which I thought it might actually be a good idea. There may be others, but overall I still think home schooling is a very bad trend for society at large. Home schooling along with the whole public funding of private school through vouchers are going to lead us back to the old days where only those who are well off will be able to get a good education. There is already a movement to abolish public education through cutting funding. I have relatives who are teachers in the public schools, yet they would like for public schools to be shut since they are only teaching kids to be socialists and atheists, according to their perverted thinking.
        Last note: my first degree was in education. The answer to failing schools is not NCLB or vouchers. The answer is increased funding and somehow getting parents to care about education, parents encouraging kids to study, parents punishing failing grades of students who are capable of better by revoking privileges or material goods such as cell phones, TV's, video games, etc.  If the parents don't care, the students will not care either.  If the student doesn't care, it doesn't matter how expert the teacher is.

    •  The "wrongs" are in the eye of the beholder (5+ / 0-)

      For some parents the problem might be a school that teaches evolution, and does not allow any public prayer. For other parents the problem might be a school that includes "intelligent design" and often has public prayer. Some may be sheltering their kids from heathens, others from bigots.

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 01:48:58 PM PST

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    •  People homeschool for a variety of reasons (5+ / 0-)

      I have a friend whose daughter's Asperger's made it very difficult for her to succeed in a traditional school environment. The girl is brilliant, much like her parents, and my friend has teaching credentials so she homeschooled. Now they live overseas with both children going to international schools.

      Another friend has two boys. One with Asperger's and one with some strong OCD. They had a miserable time in traditional schools, so she homeschooled them. I've seen major improvement in the management of the OCD for their younger son. Both boys are very bright, very articulate and extraordinarily creative and happen to be two of my sons' favorite friends.

      Yet another friend, also a former teacher, homeschooled her kids for a few years because she wanted to be as hands-on as possible with her girls' educations. They are both in public school now and thriving, but my friend would not have traded the experience of homeschooling them for anything and the girls loved it, too.

      I know a woman who pulled her children out of our excellent public schools for 5th grade only because she felt that the elementary school didn't adequately prepare the kids for 6th grade. Then she put them back in school for 6th grade and beyond.

      Point is, none of them are racists and none of them are religious separatists.

      "An injury to one is an injury to all"

      by jhb90277 on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 04:18:58 PM PST

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    •  There are many ways.. (0+ / 0-)

      to teach children when you don't know the material yourself.

      1) You can learn it. I do all of my son's school work when I prep it for him, for example. I learned more about the civil war and WWI preparing his lessons than I EVER learned in public school.

      2)You can use a co-op, a virtual school, a tutor, a friend who is knowledgeable about a subject, a class at a local college. museums, etc. Home school does not equal sitting at a table with a work book. There are many ways of accomplishing the same goal.

      Also, I know many home schooled families through support groups, some are religious, some are not. Some are conservative, some are democrat. You know what the most common reason for home schooling is? Because it's the best thing for THEIR child. Granted, I deal mostly with disabled home schooled kids support groups and we're a minority of a minority. But I think if you ask any parent who puts the effort into home schooling their child you'll get that reason, at least in the top three.

      "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

      by FloridaSNMOM on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 07:46:00 PM PST

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