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  •  Is it me or are progressive arguments being heard? (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, Odysseus, DownstateDemocrat

    From random looks at Google news and listening a bit to some of the rhetoric coming out of the party right now arguments against the Democratic status quo appear to be broadcast a bit. Arguments against chained CPI, about raising the minimum wage, about the ever more obvious lack of safety nets might be introducing more people to a progressive viewpoint.

    Likewise, I'm not hearing a strong push back from the Democratic leadership. Indeed it's almost as if they are starting to listen to us with the unbudging triumph over the GOP government shutdown and debt ceiling crisis, the Reid Rule, even some media pundits speaking up against austerity measures.

    I believe the ace up our sleeves is that we have a different approach based on historical and moral evidence which has been shown to work as opposed to the failed ideological common wisdom of the last 30 odd years. People might be ready for THAT kind of change.

    •  I agree that it's getting SLIGHTLY better (1+ / 0-)
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      But mostly because some prominent Dems are finally pushing back and the GOP's gone too far of late, and Americans are still suffering. But it's still mostly business as usual in the establishment media, and will take many more years to turn around. Basically, so long as the establishment media is owned by big money, whose interests are in line with and better represented by the GOP, things will never be that much better. How could they?

      A more promising way past this is hoping that more and more Americans simply tune out the establishment media as it gets ever more idiotic, and they finally realize that quality, truth and integrity sell.

      "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

      by kovie on Sun Dec 01, 2013 at 05:59:08 PM PST

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    •  I've begun to notice a little bit of that as well (1+ / 0-)
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      I've also seen numerous articles (and not just from left-wing outlets) promoting Elizabeth Warren as a potential Democratic presidential candidate, even after Warren signed a letter encouraging Hillary Clinton to run for president.

      My parents made me a Democrat. Scott Walker made me a progressive.

      by DownstateDemocrat on Sun Dec 01, 2013 at 11:56:33 PM PST

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      •  Yeah. I find that really odd (0+ / 0-)

        And much as I think Warren is fantastic and just how I would wish for all Democrats to be (at least in terms of advocacy for the working man and woman, homeowner, and pension-holder, if they can't manage an equal degree of social liberalism in a given place), I don't think she would have a good chance of winning a nationwide general election if she actually did choose to run and won the primaries. I think her sometimes strident manner of speaking and down-the-line progressivism wouldn't sell in enough swing states, unless her opponent were someone perceived as a real extremist, like Senator Cruz.

        Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

        by MichaelNY on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 02:19:08 AM PST

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