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View Diary: FL-11: Meet David Koller -Democratic Challenger to Rep. Richard Nugent- Monday, Dec 2 at Ocala, FL (19 comments)

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  •  You may be over-analyzing things here (1+ / 0-)
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    Not suggesting this is an attack on your views, which I respect.

    1)  David Koller's view on his website states the following:

    "Term limits for members of Congress to include a conflict of interest clause."

    The decision by the U.S. Supreme Court that you cited applies to states, not necessarily rules by federal government.

    2)  What's wrong with infrastructure spending and a balanced budget?  It's not as if Koller is implying he'd do both.

    3)  Did you read on Koller's website that he's for the following:

    Campaign finance reform
    Minimum Wage Increase
    Equality of Marriage
    Reforming Corporate Welfare

    These are not views Tea Partiers hold.  Not sure where you're going with your last sentence.  I'd say Koller is exactly what he describes himself:  Fiscal conservative, socially progressive.

    •  I checked the local Democratic Club website (0+ / 0-)

      There's no mention of his name.

      Just the fact that he went to school with Homer Simpson has me leery and he doesn't claim a degree.

      It's been a long, long time since we've had a genuine Democrat running in this district. Karen L. Thurman would qualify. She was defeated in 2002 by Ginny Brown-Waite when she was gerrymandered out of office.

      I'll contact our local member of the Democratic Executive Committee and give you an update.

      I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

      by Just Bob on Fri Nov 29, 2013 at 11:04:06 PM PST

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      •  Ok you're WAY over analyzing now (0+ / 0-)

        I really don't know where to begin.

        1)  Note that David Koller attended Suffolk County Community College, which is based in Seldon, NY

        2)  Please tell me you're making a joke here when you're referring to Koller's mention of "Springfield University" as the same university that Homer Simpson attended.  You do realize that the words college and university are the SAME thing, right?  Well, Koller may have referred to Springfield College, which is based in Springfield, MA.  I don't know for sure if it's this but that's my guess as when I put in "Springfield University" in Google, "Springfield College pops up."

        3)  I'm assuming the local Democratic club website you're referring to is Marion County Democratic Headquarters website, correct?  If so, I don't see David Koller's name mentioned as well but so what?  Koller lists the event on his Facebook page as being a "monthly meeting" and incidentally, the Marion County Democratic Headquarters doesn't list on the website the event as well.  My guess is that Koller is looking for endorsement from the Marion County Democratic Party.

        4)  Do you have a reservation that David Koller is a genuine Democrat?  He's got progressive views on the issues spelled out all over.  The only way he wouldn't be a genuine Democrat is if he's a sellout to corporate interests:

        http://koller4congress.com/...

        •  Calm down already (0+ / 0-)

          I don't understand your emotional involvement with this guy.

          I said I would check with the Democratic Executive Committee and I will.

          I don't think you understand what our experience has been since 2002. We've had people running as Democrats who wanted to eliminate the estate tax, pushing Fair Tax, balancing the budget, and poising with AR-15s. Then there was the flagpole sitter.

          We have not had a genuine, viable Democrat since Karen Thurman.

          Welcome to my world.

          I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

          by Just Bob on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 12:22:18 AM PST

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          •  I have no emotional involvement with Koller (0+ / 0-)

            All I'm doing is reporting information based off of David Koller's website, Facebook page, etc.  In fact, my group, Knowledge Democrats, reports information without getting emotionally attached to candidates.  We report diaries and add a bit of humor with motivation to take action without being personally attached.  We've been posting diaries for months, whether it be on Rob Zerban event (posted earlier), a Dave Peiser event (running against Darrell Issa in 2014) or any other Democratic challenger event but our goal is first and foremost:  Promoting the underdog, regardless of how much traction the candidate is our goal.  Call us your outsourced marketing/promotions team, if you will, for the candidates in question for the price of $0.00.

            I'm not saying I'm disregarding any further investigation you want to make with the Democratic Executive Committee.  That's not the issue.  In fact, I have no problem if you do so as to be honest (and telling the truth here), I myself only learned about David Koller just today and guess what?  I don't even live in Florida.  I just decided, hell, perhaps it might be nice if someone on Kos reported for the underdog for once instead of talking about "who's likely to win" or "which races should we be involved in."  That's where David Koller fit the equation.

            You didn't though answer my question on 3)  Is the Democratic Executive Committee you're referring to the one at Marion County Headquarters?  If not, what is the Democratic Executive Committee?  My guess is that you are referring to Marion County Democratic Party in this case.  Just asked for quick clarification, that's all.

            I understand what your experience has been in past Democratic candidates running in your district since 2002.  However, like me, you are also basing all that you know about David Koller from a website which still is a work in progress at this point so there's really no point in analyzing anything further unless you've had the opportunity to see more information via further website updates, see Koller in person, watch a video, etc.  From what I saw, progressive views on the issues were spelled ALL OVER Koller's Issues page.  my impression from your previous comment made me under the impression that you don't believe anything on the website or perhaps you're skeptical.  And that's fine, no problem with that.

            But note I have no other information to go by about David Koller other than his website or his Facebook page and from what it seems, you know nothing more about him other than what I do.  So once you get confirmation from the Democratic Executive Committee on Monday's meeting (assuming that's what you're doing), that's the next step of information.

            •  FL-11 is Hernando, Citrus, Marion and Sumter (0+ / 0-)

              Counties. As I said, I'm 75 miles from Ocala which is in Marion County. I'm in Hernando County which shouldn't be confused with Hernando, Fl which is in Citrus County. ;-)

              Let's clarify university v. college.

              http://www.diffen.com/...

              In general, a college offers education in one specific area, while a university is a collection of colleges. When you go to a university you attend one of their colleges, such as the business college or college of engineering.
              I'm confident the creators of the Simpson's show, in order to avoid a lawsuit, ensured there was no such thing as Springfield University before they sent Homer to school.

              Anyone can call themselves a Democrat and run for office. In past elections when there's a quisling running as a Democrat (and it seems there always is one) and there is no genuine, viable Democratic candidate, there has been discussion of withholding our endorsement or endorsing and working to elect a third party candidate. While that would be a banning offense at Daily Kos, it's perfectly legitimate in the real world. That's life in my local Cook PVI R+8 real world reality based community.

              I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

              by Just Bob on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 02:39:33 AM PST

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          •  Hello Just Bob (2+ / 0-)
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            I truly understand your reluctance to vote for someone you do not know nor never heard of. I also completely comprehend that driving 150 miles round trip to meet me is also not a reasonable solution.

            I would like to let you know I have been to The Hernando County Democratic Headquarters a couple of times to introduce myself to the people I wish to serve and represent and will continue to do so, in fact  I will be returning to  the Hernando County HQ  again this coming Saturday (12/07/2013)  to have coffee with the democrats that is hosted there every weekend. I hope you take the opportunity to come by allow me to introduce myself to you, answer as many questions as I can for you and have a cup of coffee.

            Also I did not go to school with Homer Simpson, I will have the correction of University to College made on my bio as I do not wish to mislead or give out incorrect information.

            Thank you for your interest in me and I hope to meet you soon.

            Also I would like to thank the dailykos.com for this article and assisting on getting the word out.

            Best Regards,
            David Koller

            •  ...welcome Dave. Good fortune... (1+ / 0-)
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              ...and I did not know Homer Simpson went to high school...

              Welcome from the DK Partners & Mentors Team. If you have any questions about how to participate here, you can learn more at the Knowledge Base or from the New Diarists Resources Diaries. Diaries labeled "Open Thread" are also great places to ask. We look forward to your contributions.

              Ignorance is bliss only for the ignorant. The rest of us must suffer the consequences. -7.38; -3.44

              by paradise50 on Sun Dec 01, 2013 at 11:21:51 AM PST

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            •  Welcome to Daily Kos, David. (0+ / 0-)

              I'm disappointed. I was hoping you might be about to bring some star power into the district. Trust me, Homer Simpson would draw attention.

              If you could flesh out your website with a page per issue, it would be very helpful. Doing it soon would be good. Doing thoughtfully would be better. I would expect it to evolve.

              Let's start with balancing the budget. That puts you firmly on the side of the Senate Republicans.

              I'd also like to see a position paper on climate change and another on inequality.

              Again, welcome to Daily Kos and I look forward to learning more about your positions.

              I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

              by Just Bob on Sun Dec 01, 2013 at 01:42:37 PM PST

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