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  •  That's why I said direct stake ... (6+ / 0-)

    ... the indirect stake is pervasive, and while in particular in electricity dominant industries like aluminum they are actually better off from the price certainty and lower average electricity costs of the presently price competitive sustainable power sources under feed-in tariffs, there is a broad slice of industry that requires electric long haul freight rail to be available for their core long haul freight tasks to avoid excessive exposure to oil price spikes.

    Or, IOW, the steel interstate is one more technology on the sustainable power side, which may help enable the establishment of sufficient political power on the "Keep the Grease in the Ground" side, but on its own does not push keeping the grease in the ground.

    Its like the balloon analogy for monetary and fiscal policy during an economic crisis. That is, you can "accommodate" economic expansion with monetary policy all you want, but fat lot of good it does if there isn't any policy to actually buy stuff and employ people.

    So monetary policy is like letting go of the string, but if there is no hot air or helium in the ballon, its not going to go anywhere.

    Same here: sustainable power options, sustainable transport options, sustainable shelter options, all help release some constraints on establishing a more sustainable system ... but they do not, and can not, on their own keep the grease in the ground. A movement must be built that is intent on that, even at the cost of political controversy and generating brutal assaults from the vested powers that be.

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    by BruceMcF on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 01:54:00 PM PST

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    •  The grease will come out of the ground until the (0+ / 0-)

      planet's main source of transportation is not petroleum based.

      I mean, that's pretty much a sequitur.

      And let's not even think about plastic!? Oh the humanity economy.

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      by k9disc on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 11:43:48 PM PST

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