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  •  Let's Be Clear: (3+ / 0-)

    Retail and QSR (fast food restaurant) jobs were never intended to support families of 3-4-5 people. Never.

    These kinds of jobs never paid a living wage, unless you worked at the management level-- and even that is a stretch.

    When I was a kid, only kids worked at McD's flipping burgers, as a summer job or temporary job as you worked your way thru high school and college.

    The problem is our still crappy economy has forced numerous adults with families into these jobs and because manufacturing has mostly shut down in the U.S., and manufacturing used to employ numerous low skilled people. but no more, those days are long gone.

    The entire retail and QSR industries were set up to exploit young, inexperienced labor. to now go to those industries and demand a "living wage" is laudible, but it's just not going to happen.

    It's not going to happen unless there is a massive, long term boycott of Wal-Mart that threatens their profits. and when I say long term, I'm saying this could take years, not just three months.

    remember, Wal-Mart closed up shop and left Germany not long ago, because Germans hated their stupid stores, and didn't think the "bargains" were good enough. There's your proof Wal-Mart will respond IF they are pressured enough.

    "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

    by Superpole on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 01:47:21 AM PST

    •  I'd like to also plant the idea of protests from (2+ / 0-)
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      socially-conscious investors, akin to the divestment campaign against apartheid South Africa. Many pension funds and retirement accounts may hold shares of stock in WMT and divestment, or the threat thereof, can help move mountains.

      A two-pronged approach, then, of consumer boycott coupled with investor activism.

      Or maybe a three-pronged approach, adding in a legislative campaign for a higher minimum wage for all workers. Call it simply a 'cost of doing business' in the U.S.

      •  NAFTA, CAFTA Took Care of (1+ / 0-)
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        "the cost of doing business in America", by more or less destroying manufacturing in the U.S. as a major source of employment.

        with the passage of these "great" free trade agreements, Ford and GM can make entire truck engines in Mexico with high skilled/low pay workers, ship them up to Detroit (no tariff fee at the border, yayyy!!) and have them installed in truck bodies using low skilled/low pay labor.

        FAIL.

        Thanks Bill Clinton and Al Gore!!

        "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

        by Superpole on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 06:30:24 AM PST

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        •  I'm no big fan of 'welfare reform' Clinton, but (2+ / 0-)
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          Subterranean, hungeski

          history demands that blame for NAFTA be assigned not simply to Clinton but also to its creator, George H.W. Bush.

          That said, America can say to WalMart and its like, "If you wish to make a profit off American consumers, fine, but to do so you must pay a living wage to the labor that helps to create that profit. That's just a 'cost of doing business' in the U.S." (Granted, this assumes a Congress with the will to pass such legislation and a President willing to sign it into law.)

          •  I Hear You (0+ / 0-)

            but it was Clinton/Gore who really got behind NAFTA, advocated heavily for it, because men behind the curtain like robert rubin, larry summers badly wanted it.. for their wealthy pals. just like they wanted Glass-Steagall to go away.. Clinton pushed for that, too.

            weak.

            "The 1% don't want SOLUTIONS; they've worked very hard the last four decades to get conditions the way they are now".

            by Superpole on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 10:13:50 AM PST

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            •  Oh, I took Clinton's measure from the '92 (1+ / 0-)
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              primary campaign when he took a break from the New Hampshire primary campaign to fly back to Arkansas to preside over the execution of a borderline retarded inmate, Ricky Ray Rector (IQ=69). Yeah, Rector was 'faking it' when he asked his guards to save the dessert from his final supper for 'later.'

              Clinton scored a two-fer with that little stunt: proved he was 'tough on crime' and distracted the media's attention from his escapades with Gennifer Flowers. What's the life of one retarded inmate compared to those two objectives? sarcasm

              Only time I ever saw Clinton lose his cool in pubic was when he talked by phone with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now and she landed a couple well-deserved jabs about the Rector affair and assorted other peccadilloes.

              Ancient history, eh? For more on that profile in courage:

              http://en.wikipedia.org/...

    •   These jobs most certainly did support families. (0+ / 0-)

      I worked retail just out of high school and made a better wage than most of my friends.  Of course that was back when department stores were union.  I was able to rent an apartment with a view in Seattle and buy pretty much what I wanted.

      There were three older single women in my department who all had supported themselves and also kids and had done so for for over 30 years.

      Three men I attended high school with retired from Safeway with nice houses and kids all raised.

      Walmart may be the one we all see but as i stated earlier, they are hardly the only ones.  Walgreen's and Macy's and the Gap and Urban Outfitters and Anthopologie and Pottery Barn and Starbucks and Amazon and  organic bakeries and cafes ALL pay less than livable wages.

      It's  easy to hate on wally world but until you boycott all low wage employers you will get nowhere. Change takes real sacrifice.

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