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  •  What we are seeing... (2+ / 0-)
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    Nautical Knots, Voiceless

    ...is a demonstration in practice of how the Catholic Church has lasted so long. Maybe one day they'll be benevolent enough to boil it all down to a half-hour video entitled "How We Got Away With It," and mail copies to the more prominent fundies.

    The Church is a sexist and homophobic institution that claims divine sanction for all its doctrines. Almost by definition, there can be no good person leading an organization devoted to such fundamental evils. If the present Pontiff were a good person, instead of someone who seems to have taken a few classes in public relations, he would not be Pontiff.

    "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

    by sagesource on Sun Dec 01, 2013 at 06:14:27 PM PST

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    •  Hate, hate, hate, hate is all I hear from you. (6+ / 0-)
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      JWK, old possum, Jlukes, elwior, paz3, jfdunphy

      Love, love, love is all I hear from the Pope.

      This is easy.

      Art is the handmaid of human good.

      by joe from Lowell on Sun Dec 01, 2013 at 06:36:10 PM PST

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    •  Homophobic... (7+ / 0-)

      a great percentage of the planet is homophobic, but it is changing. The Church is not alone.  At Mass Saturday, a Transgender woman of our parish gave one of the readings. Our parish also has a gay and lesbian outreach program.

      But perhaps you're too filled with hate to see the changes happening?

      "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" Voltaire.

      by JWK on Sun Dec 01, 2013 at 08:20:01 PM PST

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      •  though I've long since forgiven (2+ / 0-)
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        What churches did to me, not everyone can. When you spend you r formative years being told how awfil and monstrous you are (in my case for liking boys as well as girls), it tends to color what you think about the organizations that did that to you. I will still never set foot into certain denominations. I go to a church now, that's what is referred to as open and affirming, which means they think I was born this way, and in welcome to bring my boyfriend with me if I want. It took a long time to stomach going to church again, for some, they aren't going to. Many have been wounded by your church. Accusing one of hate is a big deal. It reads kess like hate, and more like hurt.

      •  That is how change happens. (2+ / 0-)
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        elwior, Cassandra Waites

        It isn't often some ex cathedra pronouncement or earth-shattering disclosure, but rather individual believers and congregations realizing that they can do these things.

        The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

        by wesmorgan1 on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 07:35:15 AM PST

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    •  You May Be Wrong (0+ / 0-)
      If the present Pontiff were a good person, instead of someone who seems to have taken a few classes in public relations, he would not be Pontiff.
      I don't think that you are necessarily in a position to interpret the working of the Holy Spirit. How can you even remotely know the mind of Pope Francis? Inference is not truth.

      "I beg the Lord to grant us more politicians who are genuinely disturbed by the state of society, the people, the lives of the poor." ~ Pope Francis

      by paz3 on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 11:12:07 AM PST

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