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  •  The NFL plays games on Thanksgiving.... (3+ / 0-)
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    RhodeIslandAspie, pistolSO, poligirl

    The minimum salary for an NFL player, depending on service time, ranges from $405K to $940K per year. Certainly, I would imagine that many players would prefer to be at home with their families, but still....

    For the record, I completely agree with you regarding NCAA football's system of exploitation. The NFL benefits from this, as the NCAA provides, essentially, an unpaid farm system for NFL franchises. And no, I don't believe that academic scholarships are sufficient compensation. But that's a separate issue. The ideal fix is to eliminate the "3 years removed from HS graduating class" requirement for draft eligibility (in fact, the draft should go away, too). Either way, players acquired straight out of high school could play professionally, either at the NFL level, or in a minor, developmental league. Honestly, I think establishing a developmental/minor league and signing players out of high school makes far more sense for NFL teams than the current model.

    •  There's been a suggestion... (2+ / 0-)
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      kenwards, SixSixSix

      By Keith Olbermann, among others, to stop pretending that college ball isn't basically minor-league pro football.

      Basically, full up admit it. Turn the teams into a proper minor league, with paid players (and their ability to earn from endorsements and the like). Instead of the fiction that these are amateurs who are students first, they'll simply be teams that are owned by the universities and whose players earn money. Instead of scholarships, those who want to actually get degrees can have their employer (the university) offset some of their salary with an academic deduction.

      •  I'd rather it went the other day. (2+ / 0-)
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        jayden, SixSixSix

        Treat college like college and not like a business.

      •  I like that idea... (1+ / 0-)
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        SixSixSix

        ...only I don't want the universities to own the teams.

        Only a very few college football programs actually make money; the rest would lose money at the same level as they currently do, meaning that we'd still have tuition-paying students and state taxpayers paying the NBA and NFL's player development costs.

        In baseball and hockey, the professional teams pay for their own minor-league development systems. (Yes, some players in those sports come out of college programs and foreign leagues too, but even they tend to spend time in the pro minors before making the big leagues.) Why should football and basketball be allowed to foist the costs of player development on tuition-paying college students and state taxpayers, rather than footing the bill themselves?

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Mon Dec 02, 2013 at 12:18:49 PM PST

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      •  My idea is this: (0+ / 0-)

        Keep NCAA sports scholarships. But allow players to be eligible for the draft (if we're forced to keep it) out of high school. If they're good enough and the team's offer is acceptable, kid can begin playing professionally immediately.

        The kids who want to go to school and get an education will still be able to do it. Then they can declare after for the draft when they're ready.

        The current system doesn't make much sense to me, and it seems it's only the financial commitment holding the NFL back. College football players are spending their 3-5 years after High School being forced to play their University's style of game, which can be totally different than an NFL-style scheme. If there's a huge rivalry, and a player is dinged up, you think the coach, who has a 7-figure job on the line, is going to worry about the kid's health? If you develop a minor league system, you get those kids at 18, develop them in your own, NFL system, and since wins and losses aren't as important in a minor league system, you can protect them better. Have a concussion? Well, no sense in having you out there for some AA football game if it might have lasting effects that could harm your NFL career. When you're ready to promote a player to the NFL, he has been trained and looked after within your own system. He knows the playbook and philosophy. He has existing relationships and chemistry with other players.

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