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  •  The best response to the problems (7+ / 0-)

    that arise with black blocs are for more people to come out. Every time we had large masses, more than 20k or so, in Oakland out in the street there was almost no issue with black bloc except for an occasional broken window. It wasn't until there were equal numbers of police and people, or more police than people, that it became a real issue.

    Agents provocateurs are inevitable as far as I'm concerned. I don't think there's any way to stop it in a non-violent way but in my experience having a wide-spread working knowledge of de-escalation techniques is a good start. Treating everyone as if they are trying to be involved in good faith is the first step.

    If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

    by AoT on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 09:57:11 AM PST

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    •  One old saw (4+ / 0-)

      we used in the labor movement, that we borrowed from the civil rights movement.

      Hold a meeting of as many folks as possible before a rally or action.  Announce you all will now break up into smaller discussion groups, each devoted to different topics.

      Announce there will be a specific small group discussion devoted to immediately implementing "militant direct action" at tomorrow's strike or demonstration.

      That small group will attract most of your infiltrators, along with some folks you might want to keep an eye on, like the guy who tried to set fire to the hotel banner during the 1980 SF Hotel Strike.

      “The answer must be, I think, that beauty and grace are performed whether or not we will or sense them. The least we can do is try to be there.” ― Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek

      by 6412093 on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 01:31:04 PM PST

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    •  I agree that's the best response. (2+ / 0-)
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      Eyesbright, AoT

      But it seems to me that the use of some Black Bloc tatics (vandalism, instigating violent confrontation with the police) is one of the best methods of depressing turn out.

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