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  •  My company pays all employees... (4+ / 0-)

    ...in entirety the week they work.

    There is no need for decades long promises.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 09:14:37 AM PST

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    •  And when the employees (6+ / 0-)

      are too sick, old, injured, or infirm to work? F*&k 'em?

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 09:32:51 AM PST

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      •  Re (3+ / 0-)
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        MGross, Victor Ward, divineorder
        are too sick
        Sick time / short term disability insurance
        old
        SS / 401k / Roth / other savings
        Injured, or infirm
        Workman's compensation, long term disability insurance
        F*&k 'em?
        Exactly.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 09:40:11 AM PST

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        •  So, you rely on others (insurance) to (8+ / 0-)

          provide for their security? Or at least, their ability to discern the future on their own ("other savings", etc.) instead of helping them to do so? Instead of management or an owner having to research what retirement options might be best, all of your employees have to do it themselves. Sounds like a return to a crueler time and an inefficient use of mental resources. An owner/management only has to do that research once for all its employees present and future, but in your world, each employee has to recreate that wheel constantly.

          "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

          by bryduck on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 09:54:47 AM PST

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          •  don't waste your time (4+ / 0-)

            the commenter is a troll who reliably shows up to spout right wing talking points. The idea of community and collective responsibility and yes, socialism, is anathema to him/her/it.

            •  "Left Libertarian" The Commons are up for dibs, (2+ / 0-)
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              happymisanthropy, peptabysmal

              first come, first grab.  Some other saps can pay to clean it up...

              Retired Pie Warrior. Substance over Sh*t Flinging (as best as I am able). Sarcasm for - and derision of - True Believers / Entitlement "Reformers" / NSA cheerleaders (yes, significant overlap) still available 24/7, you betcha!

              by JVolvo on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 02:36:09 PM PST

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