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  •  That's the strange part of this. (1+ / 0-)
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    CanisMaximus

    The people who are actually harmed (in Colombia) by free trade are an entirely different population than the one McGovern and Miller worry about.  The FTA primarily harms small farmers and poultry producers, and they don't have unions in any conventional sense.  

    My comments are coming from a place of love.

    by Rich in PA on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 11:37:28 AM PST

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    •  Ah, but they do in a sense... (0+ / 0-)

      ...demonstrated by the the recent...er... demonstrations in Bogota and elsewhere in the country.

      There is no difficulty getting people to unite. There are ad-hoc "strikes" all the time; closing roads in protest, boycotts, demonstrations. Colombians are a very proud people and VERY patriotic. But they are realists. They know there is only so much they can accomplish this way. This is why FARC and ELN arose in the first place.

      They see El Norte as meddling and manipulating with a lot of justification. We have, in our relations with Colombia, ALWAYS taken the side of the established upper classes at the expense of the middle class and poor.

      "Wealthy the Spirit which knows its own flight. Stealthy the Hunter who slays his own fright. Blessed is the Traveler who journeys the length of the Light."

      by CanisMaximus on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 11:49:34 AM PST

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      •  I can't remember which sociologist it was.... (0+ / 0-)

        ...out of the two great Colombian sociologists of the 20th century, Orlando Fals Borda or Eduardo Santa, but one of them said that in Colombia everyone kicks the class below them.  When you get down to the campesino, who's at the bottom, well, he kicks the dog.  Long story short, there hasn't been much of a united front between the middle class and the poor!

        My comments are coming from a place of love.

        by Rich in PA on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 12:28:13 PM PST

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