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  •  In what way did she single out and target (6+ / 0-)

    selected students in her class? What did she say and do?

    That's the core of the story, and it's missing here.

    Dick Cheney 2/14/10: "I was a big supporter of waterboarding"

    by Bob Love on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 10:50:12 AM PST

    •  Obviously she didn't single anyone out (2+ / 0-)
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      it's the claim of the students - it's up to them to support their claim. She can't prove she didn't say it.

      •  We don't know (0+ / 0-)

        that they didn't support their claim. Maybe the administration received accounts from other members of the class that backed them up. Maybe her own account did. What makes you so sure you know what happened, with so little information?

        The administration obviously believes she behaved inappropriately. I don't see enough detail here to form an opinion about that.

    •  They singled themselves out by objecting to (6+ / 0-)

      the subject matter. She then addressed them - in the manner she described.

    •  race narratives usually cast whites as the villain (2+ / 0-)
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      Explicitly ... though not without reason.  But it wouldn't be hard to argue that there's a difference between discussing structural racism in general terms and lazily listing all the bad things that white people (collectively) are thinking about and doing to people of color.

      There are a lot of young whites who really do have a hard time putting their own lives at one end of a spectrum of privilege and oppression with slavery, Jim Crow, imperialism, and the Holocaust at the other end.  "I haven't done any of these things, so why am I the bad guy?  I don't understand what I have to apologize for.  And I don't understand why it's all on me to make everyone equal."

      There are more than a few whites who've bought into the notion that racism is a colored-centric construct, in that it holds as axiomatic that racist thoughts, words, and actions can only come from whites or failing that, it plays a 'Six Degrees of Whitey' game which tries to turn everything from misogyny in rap music to civil wars in Africa into a consequence of something that whites have said or did.

      Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

      by Visceral on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 11:48:31 AM PST

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      •  Among my ancestors were slaveowners in the (2+ / 0-)
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        Carolinas. I never owned slaves. But I benefit from inherited status and money from my ancestors.

        But there is more. There is not one person in the US, North or South, East or West, who does not benefit from the theft of slave labor in building the economy and infrastructure of the US, except those descendants of those who performed the labor who continue to be oppressed. There is not one White person who does not have legal, social, and economic privileges denied to almost all Black and Brown folk, even many of the richest and most powerful.

        I could start in on the empires of the past, from Egypt and Babylon through Europe since the Renaissance, and the various native empires of Asia and Africa, almost all of them taking racism as a foundational principle. It is not only Whites who are racist. It is everybody with excessive wealth and power over others, and everybody ginning up fear of identifiable population groups in order to promote war, oppression, or genocide. It is not, in general, the poor and oppressed who are racist. They are far more open to tolerance, non-violence, and seeking common ground than the privileged.

        If you do not know that you are racist, if you do not believe that you could be racist, you are racist. If you do know that you have a tendency to racism by virtue of being human, you have a chance to counter that racism.

        Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Tue Dec 03, 2013 at 10:53:18 PM PST

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        •  It's a bit ironic for me in regards to slaves (0+ / 0-)

          because the wing of my family that most recently owned slaves, on my paternal grandmothers side, is the side of my family that has received the least status, money, etc. from owning slaves. It the folks who willing gave them up and who profited from them indirectly were the ones who most status and money came from.

          If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

          by AoT on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 02:56:36 PM PST

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