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  •  Another good step (28+ / 0-)

    might be to learn to accept and embrace that there is something you can't know.

    A lot of the tension comes from that, I think, as I read people's comments and the blustering, the defensiveness, the anger:

    The What do you mean?s, The Of course I'm not racist!s, The You're making this about race, not mes, The But when Black folks (Asian folks, Latinos, etc) do it, it's okay... whines

    all of the above sometimes seems to stem from that unwillingness to not know, to not be certain that what you see and experience and feel and understand isn't in fact, the bedrock upon which the meaning and the outcome is built.  Or even from which it is derived.

    It's one of the few instances where your white identity genuinely does work against you, and for that reason, I sometimes wonder if that's why there's so much pushback: No, I will not accept that my viewpoints, my knowledge, my very being can be marginal to the furtherance of this discussion

    Just my $0.02 from afar.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 09:24:36 AM PST

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    •  I thank you for this comment. Solipsism (5+ / 0-)

      is definitely part of the problem, IMNSHO. :P (I don't mean this term in the strict philosophical sense, but in the more expansive ordinary sense, which I guess is something more akin to narcissism.) Or, from another intellectualized direction, the problem of epistemology, or how we know what we know.

      I am not sure that I would have figured it out on my own as the obstacle it is without some of the thinking I encountered as an academic. (Believe me, I'm not saying that's the only way to reach that realization!) But for me, processing so much of what I encounter with my head, it was an important insight for me to acquire.

      Speaking as a white person myself, I think that is an illusory privilege. Far better in the long run to be able to empathize with people who are not-you, to be able to place oneself in their shoes even a little bit. It's a childish position to hold, that belief that one is the center of the universe and no one else matters as much. And it's a serious moral and spiritual liability for those who are stuck within it.

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      by peregrine kate on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 03:18:40 PM PST

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      •  Been wanting to do this since I read (2+ / 0-)
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        poco, CA wildwoman

        your's and a gilas' girls comments.

        They resonated deeply and deserve much wider consideration. Think you both have identified an all too human block to listening and empathic responses to the words and lives of others.

        Thank you both so much.

        There is something in us that refuses to be regarded as less than human. We are created for freedom - Archbishop Desmond Tutu

        by Onomastic on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 02:35:41 PM PST

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