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  •  there was nothing halcyon (1+ / 0-)
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    there never was going to be anything halcyon, in the near term. there were no ideal options, there were least worst options. same for syria, actually, but in that case the least worst was not bombing.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 10:48:51 AM PST

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    •  He was being ironic -- (11+ / 0-)

      referring to the premature declarations of victory by supporters of intervention. Hell, despite my tweet (140 characters and all) I'm open to the argument that it's still too soon to render a verdict* but I'm not open to the argument that NATO intervention was definitely a good idea because Gadaffi was horrible. A logical fallacy, and a moral obscenity given the context. And if we accept for the sake of argument that it's too soon to tell, what justifies hope of improvement?

      Libyans surely don't care about a verdict on intervention so much as their safety and rights and well-being but whether or not intervention "worked" is obviously important because of its impact in the next one. The Libyan "success story" helped bring about a near bombing in Syria.

    •  How is it different (4+ / 0-)

      Why is not bombing the right thing to do in Syria but not in Libya?  Yes, I understand that they are two entirely different countries in different regions, but the process was the same.  The formation of a transitional government.  Intervening early on and arming rebels.  Ugh, I don't know why I'm wasting my time.  The denial is strong about the origins of these revolutions.


      "Justice is a commodity"

      by joanneleon on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 11:54:18 AM PST

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