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  •  Thanks for your depiction of (19+ / 0-)

    me as a propagandist.  

    We disagree.  No doubt that means you must attack me and expose me.  

    It has been sad to watch your descent into crap like this.

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    by TomP on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 11:20:42 AM PST

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      I am sure trying to make you look bad is NOT bobswern's intent.  I have always had a lot of respect for and have agreed with many things you have wrote in the past in comments and what not.
      However on this one I really agree with bob.  I had just finished reading this which really says with greater clarity about 'the record' of this 'administration':

      The tent city down the street from me just got 'removed' no doubt because of its unsightly population of some 60 tents was disturbing someone living in the $300k plus housing area I stay at (don't own, only rent a room, will never own).  That is the reality.

      Obama's hollow words do not match his actions whatsoever... to the point I can barely take any of it.  The TPP is being done in secret... bush was working on it when he was chief deceiver, it was called SPP back then.  Nothing BO says lines up with his actions... nothing.... great words ... no substance.

      You said it yourself "Here is a part of the speech that that I like:"  .. great but the words have rung hollow and are platitudes to keep people THINKING he is doing something... he is ... and TPP is another betrayal.  We could have just kept bush in office for another couple terms if we wanted more of the same.... but he didn't speak eloquently... so that is the difference between the two.

      I am pretty sure when they have finished the last garnishes to this atrocity... suddenly the 'conservatives' and 'democrats' will have a coming together of pure 'bipartisanship' and pass it without blinking an eye....and within a year of its passing a million more decent jobs will leave this country... and the political parties will go back to playing good cop/bad cop on TV pointing fingers at each other for the economic and monetary disaster this nation is in and that their party is the one that will 'fix it'

      "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance." -James Madison

      by FreeTradeIsYourEpitaph on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 11:57:31 AM PST

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    •  TomP, bobswern made a very good point; (15+ / 0-)

      Obama's efforts to ram the TPP through Congress without any oversite belies his rhetoric.  If enacted, it will be one of the most devastating economic policies (for the middle class and lower income Americans) that has been developed by this administration.

      And you ignored the policies that were developed by members of Obama's own administration, some of the criminals who helped caused the global economic collapse. You can't make a cogent argument that appointing criminals to oversee your economic policies will produce anything but corrupt results...and the results have been a massive economic boon for the bankers and Wall Street executives, but not for the rest of us...I think that is the definition of income inequality.

      And Obama has protected those criminals from prosecution. To paraphrase the president's own words, his administration has been the only thing standing between the criminals and the people with pitchforks.

      I live in California. Almost every piece of real estate has been purchased by the people who are making enormous amounts of money because of Obama's policies. Low income housing is being replaced with shopping centers and expensive condos. The streets are filled with homeless people...very sad, hopeless people.

      Even more alarming has been the large amount of real estate that has been sold to Chinese investors:

      Chinese property deals in the U.S. already have reached $1.7 billion in 2013, up from $1.1 billion in 2011, according to Real Capital.
      And yes, your diary reads like it was written by a spin doctor. There are so many holes in your depiction of what has happened that it is easy to see your intent.

      New figures out this morning show that Obama's support among young voters has fallen 11%...I think that might have been a motivating force behind his speech. If you notice, he didn't offer any specific solutions to help the people who are suffering the most...he just offered a lot of empty rhetoric.

      •  That was a brilliant analysis. Truth-telling. n/t (3+ / 0-)
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        •  I think the Obama followers are making a big (5+ / 0-)

          mistake trying to spin this speech. Millions of Americans have suffered incredibly during this president's tenure in office, and I don't think they will suddenly accept the meme that he is a 'populist' president. He has been a corporatist from the get-go.

          Trying to spin something like this could back-fire. When people are desparate, and they're hurting, they become very angry when the person in charge tries to absolve himself of accountability, especially if he tries to re-invent himself as having qualities that his record disproves.

      •  That 11% figure is troubling (1+ / 0-)
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        Why I don't see them supporting the GOP, I certainly don't see them supporting someone as reactionary as Secretary Clinton.

        Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project.

        by PatriciaVa on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 03:50:02 PM PST

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        •  The report I read said they were going (2+ / 0-)
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          Independent. I don't think either party will be able to count on them from this point on. The writer said that research showed they were intent on kicking every incumbent out of office. With the exception of a few great progressives, I could support that.

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