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  •  Perhaps offer a solution in lieu of argument. (2+ / 0-)
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    Joieau, Bluefin

    Why always be anti and never offer a solution? Why not enjoin everyone in conversations and try to reach a means of solving our problems?

    Why must the extreme right insist there's a war on Christmas, etc to incite social unrest. IF there were a war on Christmas there would be crowds advocating the end to the national christmas tree and every christmas tree strung up from here to the far left coast. I don't know of anyone who's opposed to these governmental trees expounding one religion upon the masses.

    IF there were a war on christmas , just think of all the municipal funds that would be saved by not having these secular parades and street closings.

    There is no war on christmas. $arah has a new 'book'  out to continue to divide citizens and create more turmoil to no good end.

    What, sir, would the people of the earth be without woman? They would be scarce, sir, almighty scarce. Mark Twain

    by Gordon20024 on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 08:56:04 PM PST

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    •  What "solution" can there be (1+ / 0-)
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      to Tuna NOT being unsafe to eat off the coast of California?  Should we simply tell those with irrational radiation fears to seek counseling?  Or cater to their paranoia and ban all fishing in the Pacific?

      I understand your point about negativity, but reread some of the prejudicial adjectives in the diary itself.  There's not a lot of positive subject matter here.

      First they came for the slippery-slope fallacists, and I said nothing. The End.

      by Cream Puff on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 10:11:56 PM PST

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      •  Oh come now, Cream Puff. (5+ / 0-)

        Asserting subjective opinion and pejorative put-downs of people concerned about the serious and ongoing nuclear pollution of the Pacific Ocean being "irrational" and "paranoid" is violating the DBAD rule. Nobody has suggested a ban on all fishing in the Pacific but you.

        It's the Japanese government urging psychological counseling for people displaced and harmed by the disaster at Daiichi. So they don't have to compensate them for harm or displacement. I'm glad you agree that's bullshit.

        I apologize to no one for my bad attitude about things nuclear. I earned that bad attitude the hard way, thanks, and plan to keep it. Since you prefer positive subject matter, I'll point out that you are free to click on and comment to any of hundreds of diaries a day around here on just about any subject you can think of, some of them with positive subject matter. I encourage you to do so.

        Thanks for stopping by.

        •  I'm fine with negativity, (2+ / 0-)
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          I was just pointing out the difficulties in being positive.

          Since even you don't claim outright that we shouldn't eat pacific tuna off the coast of California, it's reasonable to conclude that someone like the article subject who is altering their whole lifestyle based on irrational (read: unscientific) fear is exhibiting classic symptoms of paranoia.

          My guess is that this woman would want pacific fishing banned, not anyone here.  Don't conflate the two.

          You're awfully quick to accuse others of violating site rules.  This isn't our first spat, and yet I've never been banned or had my ratings privileges suspended.   It's probably not the best strategy to post this kind of, shall we say, aggressively-themed content all while trying to police your detractors.

          First they came for the slippery-slope fallacists, and I said nothing. The End.

          by Cream Puff on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 07:16:42 AM PST

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          •  Of course you're fine with negativity. (3+ / 0-)
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            Gordon20024, dharmasyd, Just Bob

            Otherwise you would not be responding so negatively. Deal is, you have established no credible authority for yourself here, you just keep appealing to your non-existent authority as if I'm supposed to be impressed or something. It's not working.

            For instance, I don't eat Pacific tuna (caught anywhere). It has been deemed unsafe to consume for many years due to bioaccumulation of mercury, bioaccumulated radionuclides from Fukushima is just another reason to avoid it. That's not the least bit irrational, your chest-thumping doesn't magically change that.

            I believe it is in the public interest to know that dangerous radionuclides from Fukushima are being dumped wholesale into the Pacific and bioaccumulating in the food chains. What 'this woman' (whoever she is) may or may not want is as irrelevant as your attempted thread-jack.

            •  The hell I am (0+ / 0-)

              Find an appeal to authority in any of my comments in this post.  I dare you.  In fact I specifically did the opposite by stating this isn't my area of expertise.

              I've seen how you react to those (Marine Chemist, Keith Pickering, Pico, the science teacher guy from your previous diary) who either know more about this stuff or are a lot better a interpreting studies than you.  I'm not the one with the credibility problem.

              And "Thread-jack"?  Whatever.  We're talking about the source article for your post.  Seems you don't understand what these blog etiquette terms even mean.

              First they came for the slippery-slope fallacists, and I said nothing. The End.

              by Cream Puff on Fri Dec 06, 2013 at 09:26:20 AM PST

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          •  Yes! As Hannah Arendt... (2+ / 0-)
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            Just Bob, Joieau

   eloquently spoke:

            The Banality of Evil !

            “...the class which has the power to rob upon a large scale has also the power to control the government and legalize their robbery.” Eugene Debs

            by dharmasyd on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 10:21:09 PM PST

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