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  •  Jim, a prediction (1+ / 0-)
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    can't really be a lie. As for Joieau's ignoring specific factual challenges and spouting shilling accusations, I'm pretty sure you've seen that yourself.

    First they came for the slippery-slope fallacists, and I said nothing. The End.

    by Cream Puff on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 10:14:05 PM PST

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    •  I've never seen her ignore a specific factual (2+ / 0-)
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      challenge, and I've been reading every diary and comment on the topic since she started posting. In point of fact, it's usually the other way around.

      And her shilling accustations were backed by the fact that almost all of those she accused as such have since been banned. Anyone who followed those people who would do anything they could to ignore their own accountability recognized dishonest creeps after awhile.

      I assume you are not familiar with this particular troll. He's very skillful in ad hominem applied in a sneaky manner. When someone melds a prediction with an ad hominem, they have lied. You might hold there's a significant technical distinction between deception and lying but I don't hold the same.

      He lied here. He lies everywhere I've seen him 'contribute.' There's an interesting little bit somewhere in this thread where someone posts three links. Read the links. Then read drache's, er, duhban's response to that posting and you'll get an idea of the style used to troll, lie, and deceive.

      Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

      by Jim P on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 12:06:42 AM PST

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        if you or Clive or anyone else really think I am this drache or any of the other multiple people that you all have insinuated or flat out accused me of go take your case to the admins. They have shown they have no problem banning people if you have the evidence.

        But you don't do you? All you have is your dislike of me, my opinion and the known scientific facts because it conflicts with your opinion and wish to believe the worst and after months apparently of searching (as these accusations are no new thing) you have managed to find a thin, tenuous connection that is pure happenstance.

        You know what's really interesting though? I got curious and did a cursory search for 'drache' and you know what I found? I'm not the first, second or even third commenter that's been accused of being 'drache' I mean you all really have a nice boogey man going there don't you? So what's your argument that after years of being inactive these drache came back and why? That person seemingly managed to alienate everyone he ever met (from the impression I've had at least) and certainly I would think one could find better things to do on the internet.

        You don't think the science is right Jim then you are welcome to challenge me on it and I will do my best to met any objections you have but apparently like the author you would prefer to settle for passive aggressive ad homs and then accuse me of exactly what you are doing.

        But please continue because from what I understand eventually the admins do tire of this sort of behavior. I do what to thank you though for bringing this 'drache' to my attention though as it's been interesting to read this person's diaries. Not quite my cup of tea as the saying goes but then again why only read things you agree with?

        This will be my last reply to you pretty much ever I think because I'm not going to go round and round with you. So do whatever you wish but have a good night.

        Der Weg ist das Ziel

        by duhban on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 02:15:42 AM PST

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