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  •  And The Better The President ... (1+ / 0-)
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    the better the country. Why not put the best person in the most important job?

    I don't know. This seems pretty obvious to me and no one has explained otherwise despite repeated requests. That suggests this is really just Team Hillary gearing up to eliminate opponents and -- frankly -- concern-trolling that EWarren is just too important to leave the Senate.

    •  Your posit is dependent on Congress. (3+ / 0-)
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      Fogiv, Hey338Too, TomP

      True, a President could veto bills from a strong Democratic Congress, but that Congress could also override them. The President cannot make much happen unilaterally.

      While you dream of Utopia, we're here on Earth, getting things done.

      by GoGoGoEverton on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 03:19:12 PM PST

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    •  Because Senators last longer and do more (3+ / 0-)
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      Case in point:  Jack v. Ted Kennedy.  Jack was a great leader and would have been a great President if he hadn't been shot, but Ted was the one who shaped the post-New Deal era.  

      Warren has a chance to do this.  I'd far, far rather have her in the Senate for six or 12 or 18 years than in the White House for 4 or 8.

      This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

      by Ellid on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 04:57:13 PM PST

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      •  after warren is president for 8 years (0+ / 0-)

        she can run for the senate again


        much as i admired ted kennedy (my senator) the fact is that democratic party rotted from the inside while he was in the senate

        it is ludicrous to suggest that one senator is even remotely as important as the president

        had ted kennedy been elected president, it is quite possible he might have staunched the neoliberal cancer that is destroying the democratic party

        as a lone senator, however, he could not

        •  *head desk* (0+ / 0-)

          First, there are only TWO former Presidents who've returned to the federal government after their terms.  One was John Quincy Adams, who was a representative from Massachusetts.  The other was William Howard Taft, who became Chief Justice.  No one's even attempted it since, and given that Warren would be well into her 70s, the odds that she'd want to follow up the Presidency with another fight for a Senate seat are ridiculously low.

          Second, if she gives up her Senate seat she'd be right back at the bottom of the hierarchy in terms of seniority and committee assignments.

          Third, there is zero guarantee that she'd win a second term, and a good chance that the Republicans (who fear her even more than they fear Hillary Clinton) would make the current campaign against Obama look like a picnic.  

          Fourth, she has said, repeatedly and emphatically, that she is not running.  Why are you and so many others trying to draft her for a job she has never once said she even wants?

          Good God.  If you want a progressive to primary against Clinton, why not Cory Booker?  Why does it have to be Warren?

          This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

          by Ellid on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 08:04:15 AM PST

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          •  Cory Booker? Cory Booker? (0+ / 0-)

            You are really missing the boat. Booker is just another Wall Street neoliberal.

            •  Better that than a progressive who doesn't want (0+ / 0-)

              the job, has said over and over she doesn't want the job and is not gunning for the job, and frankly would be massacred in the primaries by the Clinton machine.

              I know people love it.  I get.  I really do.  I love her, too.  But demanding that she run for President when she doesn't want it?  Really?  REALLY?

              This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

              by Ellid on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 10:44:20 AM PST

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