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  •  We know where you were, and who you were with. /nt (10+ / 0-)

    It is only a matter of time before these records are used in legal proceedings.

    An illusion can never be destroyed directly... SK.

    by Thomas Twinnings on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 03:23:18 PM PST

    •  Who says it's not already? (6+ / 0-)

      What with the DEA et al instructing local law enforcement about parallel investigations to cover up giving them data collected from Americans' cell phones, how do we know location data hasn't been used to investigate, arrest and convict people of crimes already?

      You see things; and you say “Why?” But I dream things that never were; and I say “Why not?” --George Bernard Shaw, JFK, RFK

      by CenPhx on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 03:28:16 PM PST

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    •  There was a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon (5+ / 0-)
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      where Calvin here's the words to "Santa Claus is Coming to Town"

      "...he knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake..."

      And says, "Santa Claus, Kindly old elf or CIA stooge"

      Anyone who got their phones from "Santa" has their answer -- Stooge.

      There are lies, damn lies, and statistics but they all pale in comparison to conservative talking points.

      by ontheleftcoast on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 03:34:17 PM PST

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    •  ALL METADATA collection includes location data... (10+ / 0-)

      ...as far as cellphone usage is concerned. In other words, since the data dragnet continues as you read this, the location data of virtually everyone in the U.S. is collected, and may be held for up to five (or six, depending upon which Presidential and DoJ records--currently in effect--you accept as the current reality) years. And, that's based upon Att'y Gen'l Holder's publicized directives in March of 2012, which were published approximately 6-7 weeks after the NSA's, five-page "Collect-it-all" (i.e.: Total Information Awareness) memo was published and accepted by the White House, on down, as standard operating procedure for the NSA, going forward (to this day).

      This is part of the "the current state of play" of domestic surveillance that exists in the U.S.

      Nothing to see here, move along!

      "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

      by bobswern on Wed Dec 04, 2013 at 04:35:08 PM PST

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    •  Kos. Stop placing my information into your (1+ / 0-)
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      online petitions.  It's a boundary violation, just totally offensive.  Besides, they just add my name to fundraising lists.  Just stop it.  This is a real piss off, Buddy.

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      by SGWM on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 08:24:12 PM PST

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