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  •  Medicare is already means-tested (0+ / 0-)

    Please see this link:

    http://news.illinois.edu/...

    Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is now 400ppm. That is "Climate Cluster Chaos". (hat tip to JeffW for CCC)

    by Zinman on Thu Dec 05, 2013 at 04:04:17 PM PST

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    •  Kaplan argues that the funding mechanism (0+ / 0-)

      is, if you look at it sideways and squint, some kind of means testing for benefits. He actually says, though

      The value of Medicare benefits received correlates with a person’s health...
      The rich pay more, per capita, for a lot of things we view as the commons and are available to all.

      "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

      by Orinoco on Fri Dec 06, 2013 at 09:22:12 PM PST

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      •  So it is means tested, you agree with me. (0+ / 0-)

        The fact is that if you have a high enough income, that will trigger higher Medicare rates for you, and you will have to pay more for Medicare than if you had a lower income. That is what means testing is, by definition, and that is what is already in place. The comment I responded to claimed that Medicare was not means tested, and that is undeniably an incorrect assertion.

        Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is now 400ppm. That is "Climate Cluster Chaos". (hat tip to JeffW for CCC)

        by Zinman on Fri Dec 06, 2013 at 09:48:11 PM PST

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        •  From Wikipedia (0+ / 0-)
          A means test is a determination of whether an individual or family is eligible for government assistance
          From Miriam-Webster
          a process done to find out the amount of money a person has in order to see if that person qualifies for government assistance
          From Investopedia
          A method for determining whether someone qualifies for a financial-assistance program.
          None of these definitions mention funding mechanisms nor about the amount a beneficiary pays for the benefit. What dictionary are you using?

          "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

          by Orinoco on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 07:40:28 PM PST

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