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  •  Sadly, I believe once we Boomers (7+ / 0-)

    join the Dearly Departed over the next 25, 30 years those we leave behind will barely remember WWII or Pearl Harbor.  I remember studying the Civil War back in 8th grade and wondering, my God, that was 100 years ago, why we learning about that?  And, when you're 13, 14 one hundred years ago may as well be the beginning of time.  They may still teach WWII and Pearl Harbor in school these days, but if you stand at Times Square and ask those passing by under 30 what the significance of Dec. 7th is I bet, sadly, nearly half have no clue.  But, if it's any consolation we still remember the Alamo.  Maybe it's all them Davy Crockett movies.  I hope the day lives in infamy.  But, we're a nation now that can barely remember what happened last week.  The Repubs count on that.

    •  It's something I find myself thinking about this (3+ / 0-)
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      all the time these days, regarding issues both big and small...

      ...I came of age at the end of the Vietnam War and am the son of a WWII vet.  WWII is 'history' to me even though my parents experienced it, but Vietnam was reality.  On a smaller scale, I was in the early stages of my career as a federal natural resource management employee when the most prominent local landscape feature - Mt. St. Helens - decided to erupt and send my career in directions I never could otherwise have dreamed of.  I now work with a bright young group of federal employees who were either unborn or in diapers in 1980 when I was experiencing the St. Helens eruption and whose parents didn't have thoughts about being parents when some of my older former high school friends were slogging around in SE Asia...

      I was born at the end of the Korean War and to me it is 'history'.  I suspect that the 30-something's of today see Vietnam the same way, so it wouldn't surprise me that their personal disconnection with the reality of the sort of tense global war that our parents experienced in WWII could look just like our views of the Civil War...

      "In a nation ruled by swine, all pigs are upward mobile..." - Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

      by Jack K on Fri Dec 06, 2013 at 09:24:10 PM PST

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      •  Yep. Sadly. I served at the behest (4+ / 0-)

        of Uncle Sam during the Vietnam war, although I did not spend one second there.  Luck of the draw and all that.  But, when the JFK 50th came up as an "event" of sorts last month I thought to myself, no Way that can be 50 years ago...  It does seem like 25, 30 years ago, but 50?
        And, it's much of the reason why we can't get through to the "kids" under 35 re. issues du jour regarding the "Economy" and the KochBros et. al.  The reason being they don't remember the America we do.  B.R.  Before Reagan.  What they see today is "normal."  winkk, what you taking about the Fast Food workers on strike?  We've been making $7 an hour since H.S.  What's up with them rebels?  The under 35 crowd has no clue about America B.R.  They accept the KochBros' boot on their neck as "normal," wonder what the Liberals are whining about.
        Hopefully we can get through to the Millenials that their "normal" is horse$h!t.

      •  It's not just wars. Everything that happened (2+ / 0-)
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        to us old folks is history now. How many still remember the Depression, WW2, B&W TV, a man walking on the moon? But there are a tremendous amount of good history books and films, and those things won't be forgotten -- just as the Civil War isn't forgotten. The personal disconnect is inevitable but the history remains.

        •  WW2? Vietnam? Try End of the Cold War (3+ / 0-)

          Most of the under-30 crowd doesn't have a clue what the Soviet Union was.  Cold War?  What was that?  It really lasted for forty years?  One nice week in October we might have turned the planet into a smoking, radioactive cinder?  Who knew?  The underlying fear of the era which seeped into the bones of those who passed through it just isn't comprehended by those under 30, and it is actually a good thing.

          "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

          by PrahaPartizan on Sat Dec 07, 2013 at 12:26:42 AM PST

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          •  Yes; it's not personal; it's just history. (1+ / 0-)
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            And reading the whole story now, how close we came to annihilation, is almost more scary than living through it because most of us didn't realize how close we were back then....

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