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  •  FoxNews and its watchers live in an (18+ / 0-)

    alternative reality where "white is right," there are WMDs in Iraq, America is always being betrayed by Dems, and war is good, among other things.  

    It's a fictional universe mostly for people in old folk's homes where talking about teh good old days means singing "Dixie."

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    by TomP on Mon Dec 09, 2013 at 09:22:43 AM PST

    •   An ex of mine had a lighter that played Dixie (3+ / 0-)
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      her favorite saying was “the South will rise again”.

       Much as I loved her I'm glad it's over.

      Focus on the love! The Republicans can keep the disco.

      by Mr Horrible on Mon Dec 09, 2013 at 10:27:37 AM PST

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    •  and it's Obama who is responsible (7+ / 0-)

      for those defense cuts, not the sequester which exists solely because Republicans can't stand the idea of multi-billionaires being asked to pay a single penny more in taxes.

    •  Problem is (0+ / 0-)

      . . . that something like 45 million Americans live in that alternate reality. And they vote in every election.

      •  That leave 250 million that do not. (0+ / 0-)

        I'll take our chances.  In addition, the FoxNews audience is literally dying off.

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        by TomP on Mon Dec 09, 2013 at 12:35:55 PM PST

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        •  Of a total electorate of 125 million voters (1+ / 0-)
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          . . . a bloc of 45 million is quite significant.

          Even resting on the assumption that "demography is destiny", we're still at minimum several election cycles away from this faction fading into irrelevancy. But whatever the case, the left doesn't have anything analogous to Faux News, & nothing approaching the media power that the right has to present its worldview & spin as objective reality.

          But the deeper problem that I was trying to point out is that the Democratic base doesn't consist of a loyal bloc of voters who tune in regularly to cable news & turn out in EVERY election. If the Republicans' Achilles heel is their shrillness & crazy, the Democrats' is that they can't motivate their rank-&-file voters to turn out in non-presidential elections. Partly it's a problem of outreach, but perhaps it's also voter disillusion at the Democrats' inability or unwillingness to follow through with their promises. This factor is why Republicans have such a strong upper hand at the state level, why so many states that are "blue" or "purple" in presidential elections are thoroughly dominated by Republicans in statewide offices & state legislatures: North Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin. Among the "political junkies" who do pay attention daily, we're greatly outnumbered by the Faux crowd. Even with changing demographics & all that, nationally speaking, more often than not, if an election comes down to their base versus ours, we'll get clobbered. That's why most Democratic politicians tack toward the center even at the risk of infuriating their base; also it's why most Republican politicians don't.

          •  Well explained BB (0+ / 0-)

            Now HOW to motivate democrats, so diverse and disagreeing, to get out and vote in EVERY election?  Maybe GOP threatens:
            Renewed draft for military manpower?
            Loss of Obamacare?
            Privatize  Social Security?

    •  Problem is (0+ / 0-)

      . . . that something like 45 million Americans live in that alternate reality. And they vote in every election.

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