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  •  No, I'm pretty sure she's talking about... (22+ / 0-)

    the war we came very close to entering with Syria if their hadn't been push-back from both sides of the aisle.

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    by kharma on Tue Dec 10, 2013 at 12:50:31 PM PST

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    •  she's also insisted for months that (2+ / 0-)
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      assad never used chemical weapons and obama lied about that.

      well, she's entitled to her opinion.

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      by terrypinder on Tue Dec 10, 2013 at 12:58:25 PM PST

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      •  I still haven't seen any proof that Assad's (12+ / 0-)

        regime had anything to do with the 8/21 chemical attacks. And now we've learned that the rockets were likely improvised with a maximum range of 2 km. And we've also learned about the detection systems in place. Syria has to use these chemical weapons quickly once they're fueled, but the detection apparatus did not sense any fueling. Lastly, we've learned that the Obama administration started with the assumption that Syria launched the attacks and worked backwards to support this belief.

        Not to mention that al-Nursa probably has the capability to acquire/manufacture sarin.

        So my question is, did Obama lie or was he duped by the intelligence community?

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        by HairyTrueMan on Tue Dec 10, 2013 at 01:16:10 PM PST

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      •  I never said any such thing. I simply reported (3+ / 0-)
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        that UN investigator Cara Del Ponte said she saw evidence that pointed to the rebels in prior CW attacks, forwarded the expert opinion that it's difficult to assess blame for CW attacks and throughout history there have been many false claims about blame for CW attacks, countered the false statements about the UN report assessing blame that were made by several people here, pointed out that the UN report stated that the sites were compromised and data was manipulated, making it difficult to assess blame, doubted the veracity of anyone claiming to know that Assad was behind these CW attacks with any certainty, and wrote a diary about a reporter who didn't believe that Assad did it based on the fact that there was no motive for him to do it, quite the contrary.

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        by CIndyCasella on Tue Dec 10, 2013 at 06:55:17 PM PST

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    •  Had it not been for the overwhelming... (9+ / 0-)

      ..opposition in the US to this War of Choice, the President would have committed to engagement.

      In fact, the Pentagon had staged mock press conference the day before the proposed strike.

      Sep 15, 2013

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      Five Navy destroyers were in the eastern Mediterranean, four poised to launch scores of Tomahawk cruise missiles into Syria, according to military officials. Officers said they expected launch orders from the president at between 3 p.m. and 4 p.m. Eastern Time on Saturday. To make sure they were ready to answer reporters' questions, Pentagon officials conducted a mock news conference.

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      by PatriciaVa on Tue Dec 10, 2013 at 01:10:30 PM PST

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      •  Hersh believes that opposition from within the (1+ / 0-)
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        military and intelligence community was more important than opposition by Congress and We the People in preventing the war.

        It's an interesting question.

        Information is the currency of democracy. ~Thomas Jefferson

        by CIndyCasella on Tue Dec 10, 2013 at 07:01:42 PM PST

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    •  Yes, that is obvious. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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