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  •  I would like to take their fancy store-bought (6+ / 0-)

    Bible software or YouVersion app away for a few weeks. Make them use Xiphos.

    Xiphos is open-source, one of the Sword Project programs. One of the things about it is that it can install Bibles and other resource modules by local file and by repository - practically nothing is included on install.

    This means it can be passed to someone on a CD or USB drive with those resources included.

    This also means the module manager window and a few other places have these little warnings about not using the online repositories in countries with active anti-Christian persecution. Detectable web traffic is bad.

    It's rather enlightening to use the program for a little while from a fresh install, fiddling with the online settings and constantly seeing the warning and knowing that yes, you are lucky because you do not need to have someone else get those files to you or go without - you can just set up a repository and download away without a risk the police will come knocking!

    The online Bibles - like YouVersion - and the fancy store-bought software presumes an audience where Christians can live openly and 'Auto-Update' being selected automatically won't lead to a prison sentence. No warnings there.

    •  Yeah, though I am surprised that Xiphos doesn't (1+ / 0-)
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      have functionality to download via the TOR network as I find it highly unlikely that those countries could crack TOR.  Though I guess the NSA could crack it for them and provide a list of such people in exchange for certain favors so it might be better that it doesn't.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Tue Dec 10, 2013 at 10:40:43 PM PST

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      •  I would guess to do that (2+ / 0-)

        someone would need to set the entire internet connection to be going through TOR.

        Or use a TOR-capable LiveCD to get the resource .zips and stick them on removable media for passing around.


        I really think more of my fellow Christians - especially the ones who wouldn't want to count me as one - really need to spend time every once in a while thinking about what it actually takes to survive real persecution. Like this question of just how one would go about anonymously downloading a Bible file in a country where that could be dangerous. Brainstorming through situations like that is a good awareness exercise.

        And the second stage is to recognize that if you aren't engaging in that kind of 'how do I stay safe' thinking - the automatic hiding, the check to see who is listening, the wondering if it's safe to let someone know what you are or where you meet with the others - then you are dealing with very minor persecution or a case of simple inconvenience. Or you're just ignoring the fact no actual harm is done to you by the government following the First Amendment and whining about not being allowed to become a persecutor yourself.

        •  No, I mean have a (limited) TOR client (2+ / 0-)
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          built into Xiphos so that by default any resource downloads went through the TOR network without having to install anything else.  Of course, it would then need to be coded to use IP addresses to download any resources in order to avoid leaking information through DNS requests.

          But I definitely agree with you that either they don't know what persecution means or are just "lying for the lord".

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Tue Dec 10, 2013 at 11:43:07 PM PST

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