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  •  There wasn't a big switch. (20+ / 0-)

    Boomers voted for Nixon over McGovern and Reagan over Carter. They were never overwhelmingly liberal as a generation.

    •  So many people forget this (16+ / 0-)

      probably because of the social upheaval of the '60's. But '60's radicals were in the distinct minority.

      “It takes no compromise to give people their rights...it takes no money to respect the individual. It takes no political deal to give people freedom. It takes no survey to remove repression.” ― Harvey Milk

      by lucid on Wed Dec 11, 2013 at 10:08:11 AM PST

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    •  not all boomers, though (4+ / 0-)

      that's the interesting thing about breaking generations up into smaller tranches here, you really get at the divisions within the x'ers and boomers.

    •  Don't piss on the Baby Boomers, they're liberal (3+ / 0-)

      The Baby Boomers join the Millenials as the two groups who vote most heavily Democratic.

      It was the Greatest Generation (mostly died off, except my Dad) and the so-called Silent Generation ahead of us (dying as we speak) who, when combined with the Republican Gen  Xers weighted elections Republican.

      The Baby Boomers and the Millennials together are what's turning elections Democratic.

      The Republicans still have the House only because of gerrymandering.

      The Baby Boomers vote: turn out your Millenials and we've got Democratic wins.

      •  No, that's not what the numbers show. (3+ / 0-)
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        Gen X is more Democratic than Boomers, who are almost evenly divided and voted for Bush.

        •  Nope, (0+ / 0-)

          I read a piece awhile back (I believe on Daily Kos) where someone broke down the numbers (I've been looking for it in my files.)

          The Republican voters of Gen X, combined with those in the Greatest Generation and Silent Generation brought us Republican majorities.

          And predicted that as the Greatest Generation and Silent Generation died off, the Democrats in the Baby Boomers and Millennials would bring about Democratic majorities.

          •  It's linked in this diary right here. (1+ / 0-)
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            The numbers don't reflect what you wish to be true.

            Obama lost voters age 50-64. He lost voters age 65 and over. He won Gen X voters age 30-39.

            It's not about "pissing on" baby boomers. The facts are what they are. Boomers were always closely divided politically and as a group, they vote Republican more often than not.

            •  As a late boomer ( dec 1962 ) (2+ / 0-)
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              I have found that my older boomer cousins, and siblings, do vote R most of the time. The boomers I know that don't are the ones born in the early 60's, we came of age just as Reaganism was starting to strip working class benefits. We went through his recession; our older cousins were established with better jobs and did not have to move back home after college for the most part. Many of them have retired with the last vestiges of pensions, and are now shocked that their retirements are under attack. This is all anecdotal tho.

          •  That seems to explain why the Third-Way (0+ / 0-)

            would want to take over the Democratic party.

    •  What? No, Boomers voted for McGovern. (4+ / 0-)

      Boomer turnout for McGovern was huge...

      In 1976, when boomers were between 18 and 30 years old, their turnout rate was 50 percent. In 2008, 51 percent of millennials — ages 18 to 28 at the time — voted.

      And in 1972, when boomers had many incentives to go to the polls, including the Vietnam-era draft, the numbers still weren’t too different. A total of 54 percent of boomers voted in the Nixon-McGovern election, versus 49 percent of millennials in the 2004 Bush-Kerry race.

      ...and while McGovern had a landslide loss he won Boomers.
      •  oops, here's the link... (0+ / 0-)

        ...for turnout, I haven't seen a link on the vote results but Boomers can't possibly be credited with having "elected Nixon".

        •  Some of them must have helped. In 1972 (0+ / 0-)

          my high school was invited to participate in a half-time rally during a football game at the University of New Hampshire that was in support of Nixon. I couldn't believe it at the time, but maybe these college kids were inspired because Nixon was promising to end the war in Vietnam.

      •  They turned out. (3+ / 0-)
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        That's a different question than who they voted for.
        52% of those under 30 voted for Nixon.
        http://www.gallup.com/...

        •  Wow, 48% under 30 for McGovern, 52% for Nixon (2+ / 0-)
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          ...in an election where only 67% of Democrats voted for the Democratic candidate and 33% of Dems voted for Nixon. You're right and I'm surprised Boomers went for Nixon by a 4 pt spread but it's only 4 pts. They were probably Sam Alito and all his friends.

          •  McGovern (0+ / 0-)

            took only Massachusetts. After Watergate there were stickers here for years saying, "Don't Blame Me, I'm From Massachusetts." There were all kinds of issues going on in that election, including major Southern opposition to McGovern as the South started its move into the GOP. And the suggestion that his running mate Tom Eagelton, who'd had electric-shock therapy, was crazy. Nixon went to China and signed SALT, while pretending he'd end Vietnam (he did pretty much the same thing on Vietnam in '68). A perfect storm.

            But when you get that kind of a landslide, people who don't follow politics start bleeding into the winner's camp. Losing Boomers (and "under 30" in 1972 includes people born before the Boomers) by only 52-48 is actually pretty good for the Democrats when the total population voted 62-38. Nixon won 30-49 and 50+ by 2 to 1.

            “Republicans...think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it.” Harry S. Truman

            by fenway49 on Thu Dec 12, 2013 at 08:47:19 AM PST

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      •  Incorrect (1+ / 0-)
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        The youngest boomers were 12 in 1976. They didn't vote for president until 1984.

        And I presume when you say 54% of boomers voted in 1972 that you mean 54% of the half of them who were old enough to vote; the oldest boomers were only 26 then, the youngest 8.

        •  I assume the article means 54% of Boomers... (0+ / 0-)

          ...18 years old or older. 1972 was my first election and I knew no Boomers 18 years old or older who failed to vote or failed to vote for McGovern but that may have been a regional thing. But sure, only those age appropriate. I worked for my state's Board of Elections that year - couldn't wait to become fully engaged - and was one of many 18 year olds who worked for McGovern. I suppose it could have been 54% of Boomers overall but that's not how I read it.

    •  Huh? (1+ / 0-)
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      Nixon? Only the very oldest boomers could vote in 1968, 21- and 22-year-olds, and half still couldn't vote in '72.  The youngest didn't vote for president until 1984.

      I've never seen any exit polls that broke the age groups down along named generation lines. Why do you think you know how boomers voted?

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