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View Diary: India demands 195,000 H-1B VISAs through WTO (103 comments)

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  •  HB-1 (4.00)
    I recall that the visa numbers went up in the late 1990's when there was an unemployment of 2% in the high tech industry.  After the dot com bubble burst and the unemployment numbers went through the rough, the numbers were lowered to 65,000 ( I think, I am not sure ).  Where is the need now?  Stop screaming racist, etc. and just look at the numbers.  Do we need to shop abroad?  I don't care who is an immigrant in this issue, that is not the point.  I am a nurse and I know that the hospitals scream shortage and want to hire from abroad.  Great, but its not about shortages as much as the ability to treat us as disposable tissues and keep our wages low.
    •  Chemists (none)
      Pharma hires a lot of foreign scientists.  It is hard getting American students to major in Chemistry or other "hard" sciences because, well, the coursework is hard and the pay is not so great.  

      Meet me in Cognito, baby

      by out grrl on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 02:19:27 PM PDT

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      •  RE: Chemists (none)
        Pharma hires a lot of foreign scientists ... because, well, the coursework is hard and the pay is not so great

        Great solution. Don't raise the pay, or provide any external incentives so as to make the hard coursework worthwhile to the student. Simply adjust the supply of labor, thereby perverting the law of supply and demand.

        The offshore abritraging of labor for the case of those jobs which can be offshored, and the inshoring of cheap labor for those jobs which cannot be offshored has really worked out well so far.

        If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

        by superscalar on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 03:16:06 PM PDT

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        •  Qualify (none)
          I should qualify my statement.  When I say that the pay is "not so great", I mean that it is still better than the majority of jobs, but not equivalent to what the same people could make if they chose careers in finance.  The reality is that it takes a certain degree of intelligence to get a chemistry degree and people with that level of intelligence can make more money majoring in finance.  It is the difference between starting at 40K and 70K.  Not bad in either case, but still very different.

          Pay for scientists was lagging before H1-B visas became an issure.  Lab jobs are cool. You make good money.  You get to wear blue jeans.  You get to set stuff on fire.  But American students, generally, are more interested in huge paydays.

          Meet me in Cognito, baby

          by out grrl on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 07:56:19 PM PDT

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    •  yuppers, thank you n/t (none)

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      by Robert Oak on Tue Jun 28, 2005 at 02:28:16 PM PDT

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