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View Diary: John Podesta to Help WH on Climate Change...But Not Keystone XL? (22 comments)

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  •  KXL is an attempt to make the United States (1+ / 0-)
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    even more dependent than it now is on the use of imported hydrocarbon liquids derived from tar sands with high penalties of greenhouse gas emissions and high terrestrial impacts.

    This is the most compelling reason why President Obama should not approve the KXL northern portion.

    Environmental groups claiming that KXL is an "export pipeline" when such tar-sand-derived liquid hydrocarbons are destined for U.S. guif refineries is an exercise of environmental organization advocacy malpractice since such an "export pipeline" claims undermine the fundamental claim objecting to a presidential decision to make the United States more dependent on tar sands derivatives production.

    •  Right, we dont know if KXL will be for export (0+ / 0-)

      But it does appear that a pipeline reversal and IIRC one other project is in the works that would connect Port Arthur to LOOP, about 800kbpd.

      PADDIII has more than enough cracker capacity to crack bitumen from a completed KXL, and process it to light sweet syncrude for export to the western EU.

      The potential for KXL bitumen to be exported is real, but as of now would be conjecture.

      And the ability for western EU and Asia to economically absorb a price of $10 a gallon is much better than the US.

      .................expect us......................... FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Thu Dec 12, 2013 at 08:56:10 AM PST

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