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  •  She'll Be Better Than Any GOP Monster (10+ / 0-)

    The awful turd that's going to rise to the top of the GOP primary sewer will force me to hold my nose and vote for her.  Hopefully enough others too.  (When do we officially rename the White House Buckingham Palace?)

    She isn't going to unify Dems and I'm REALLY sorry the party can't do better.

    •  Yes, and I would vote for her (5+ / 0-)

      in a general election.  And I could vote for her in a primary depending on the circumstances.  But stores like this create alienation in many Dems.  

      Has she learned from 2007 and 2008?  

      Her inevitability balloon can be popped again by finding a moment that brings it all into focus.  She is 1990s.   We will be in 2016.

      If she focuses on economic inequality, and she could, she can seem more like a modern-day Dem.   She needs to get the glory for Bill in the 90s re the economy while saying things are different now and she is with the times.  

      This was probably sucking up for $$$ in the future, and there are no direct quotes so we don't know what exactly she said, but this doe snot help her with many Dems.  

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      by TomP on Thu Dec 12, 2013 at 08:13:18 AM PST

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      •  Just wait until the "Need to win the election" (9+ / 0-)

        mode gets started.

        Oh wait.  We're almost 2 years out now... Bout that time...


        I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

        by detroitmechworks on Thu Dec 12, 2013 at 08:18:45 AM PST

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      •  "If she focuses on economic inequality" (5+ / 0-)

        Then we will know it's just cleverly targeted words.  HRC isn't a clean slate, we know her positions already, and most of us find them pretty far to the right.  

        Even with Obama, many here recognized him as a corporate dem in the primaries.  I thought he would be at least a little progressive, and he is on foreign policy, but the doubters turned out to be mostly right.  With HRC there is no need to doubt, we just look at Team Clinton's record to see their entanglement with Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street, and for HRC, a belligerant foreign policy stance.

        I wonder if HRC's gender lulls some into thinking she will be a dove on foreign policy.  Her statements on every "crises" have been unequivocally republican, even neo-conservative.  As SoS, she avoided any great diplomatic moves, unlike her successor.  She is the last person to lead the US after two wars have wound down.  

        "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

        by Subterranean on Thu Dec 12, 2013 at 11:30:57 AM PST

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    •  But the Party CAN do better. (7+ / 0-)

      "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

      by elwior on Thu Dec 12, 2013 at 09:34:59 AM PST

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