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  •  Actually you can (4+ / 0-)
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    Canals still have a big part to play in bulk delivery. Far better to have a few barges deliver, for example, gravel for construction, than huge convoys of trucks. (The 2012 Olympics Park in London was built this way due to congestion in the surrounding roads.) Large sections for Airbus planes travel by barges and are transloaded onto seagoing ships for the journey from Britain to France.

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    by Lib Dem FoP on Sun Dec 15, 2013 at 07:47:19 PM PST

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    •  Yes, we rely on substantial .... (3+ / 0-)
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      ... barge transport for bulk delivery, and could well become more important over the coming decades in those parts of the country and those freight markets where its available, but for the markets that dominate freight transport by value, it does not offer the speed required to out-compete the reliability and time to market of diesel truck transport.

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      by BruceMcF on Sun Dec 15, 2013 at 07:55:55 PM PST

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      •  The more obvious problem with canals (3+ / 0-)
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        is the environmental destruction they cause. Canals need much wider and flatter (except at locks) right-of-way than the largest highways (for example, compare the Tenn-Tom Waterway with Ontario's Highway 401).

        For cities like London and Pittsburgh located along natural waterways, taking the ships right in makes sense. But you're not going to be able to get barges to Zurich or Denver (at least this American doesn't think you can).

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        by NE2 on Sun Dec 15, 2013 at 09:31:24 PM PST

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        •  Denver and the Rockies ... (3+ / 0-)
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          ... is a substantial part of the problem of viewing canals as a silver bullet solution to freight.

          Europe is essentially a cluster of peninsulas coming off of peninsulas at the western edge of Eurasia, so most of Europe is much closer to the ocean than a lot of the US, especially when considering connections between the West or East coasts and the middle of the country.

          But when shifting to a multi-mode perspective, barge freight evidently does and will continue to have an important role to play.

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          by BruceMcF on Sun Dec 15, 2013 at 10:09:48 PM PST

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