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  •  sorry you don't like unions (shrug) (0+ / 0-)

    Fortunately, employess will form them anyway whether you like it or not, because they don't care what you think and they don't need your permission.  (shrug)

    But when you learn something about the history of the union movement, you will learn that the most effective union organizing was done when unions were ILLEGAL, and when Federal and state governments sent in armed troops to break strikes and bust unions.

    Which means this:

    Unions are most successful when government money and political clout is involved.  
    is just ignorant tommyrot.

    PS:  the current contract is not with the Smithsonian--the Smithsonian does not own the McDonalds in their museums.

    In the end, reality always wins.

    by Lenny Flank on Tue Dec 17, 2013 at 05:07:12 PM PST

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    •  Public unions started in the seventies (0+ / 0-)

      The union sector today cannot lay claim to the history of success of labor in the private sector.  They are entirely different scenarios.  

      One involves labor, capital and profit.  The other involves labor, taxpayers and political organizing.


      And, I said "at the Smithsonian" not "with the smithsonian".  (sigh)

      •  No, not right.... (0+ / 0-)

        I believe Wisconsin was the first to state to authorize public sector unions for state employees - dating back to the late 1950s. Public sector unions were already active on a limited scale in some cities, notably NYC.

        Wisconsin was said to have been the model for JFK when he signed the executive order legalizing federal government unions -- 1962, I believe.

        Efforts to unionize at the Post Office go back much further, but were never formally recognized by the govt till Kennedy.

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