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  •  In regards to surveillance (3+ / 0-)
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    Ray Pensador, Johnny Q, lyvwyr101

    the Stasi is a pretty good analogy to the NSA right now. Although the NSA is worse in terms of quantity. They can literally look at everything. They can't go after people physically. We leave that to other governmental entities.

    If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

    by AoT on Tue Dec 17, 2013 at 04:24:46 PM PST

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    •  I'm not at all convinced that it is (2+ / 0-)
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      serendipityisabitch, AoT

      The Stasi largely relied on staffing and informants; in that respect, Ray's title makes sense. But the NSA doesn't rely on "turning citizens into spies." What seems to be Ray's best (only?) example of that, the TrapWire program, hardly resembles the Stasi model. Feeding citizen 'reports' of Walking While Appearing Middle Eastern to a "threat pattern" algorithm is worthy of a Golden Fleece, but it is wildly suboptimal as a social control mechanism.

      Your felt need to "be clear" in your first comment is a good measure of just how unclear this diary is. It is against generally the right things, but the analysis doesn't cohere.

      "I am not sure how we got here, but then, I am not really sure where we are." -Susan from 29

      by HudsonValleyMark on Wed Dec 18, 2013 at 06:05:42 AM PST

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