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  •  religious views don't get a free pass (5+ / 0-)

    Everyone may be entitled to believe whatever they want, however sensible (or not) but they don't get a free pass when they bring those beliefs out in public.  And they don't get a free pass from what other people may think of their beliefs just because they label them "religious".

    It doesn't matter whether the belief is "the poor are moochers" or "fairies live at the bottom of my garden" or "my religious tradition says . . ." or "the earth really does orbit around the sun, not the other way around" they are all equally valid for someone else to comment on, even if the comment is "that's pretty silly".  The comment may or may not be correct, but it is legitimate to make it.

    If the comment is felt to be unjustified than they should present a cogent and supportable argument why that is the case and see if they can bring the person who made the comment around to their position.

    A bigotted belief is still bigotted, even if it is religious, and it should not be protected from condemnation.


    •  So counterproductive. (2+ / 0-)
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      That attitude only hurts people trying to convince the religious community the religious community to accept like same-sex marriage.

      If you tell religious people, you are still entitled to your religious views about marriage and you do not have to change your religious views, but you can't impose them on other through the civil laws, because we're all entitled to our own religious views -- that sounds reasonable to sensible people.

      But your view -- "your religious views are unacceptable, and extending marriage rights to same sex couple is a statement that your religious views are unacceptable and cannot be tolerated" -- well, NOBODY who is religious will go along with that.  

      And, of course, when a LAW is passed primarily as a way of demonstrating that certain religious views are unacceptable, THAT'S clearly unconstitutional.  

    •  I totally agree. It's time all religions are held (1+ / 0-)
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      in judgment with equal contempt. The right is always so worried about being labeled bigoted and insensitive when they are exposed as being out of step with present cultural mores. They ridicule this exposure as "political correctness." Yet, so many religious leaders, and followers, are given a free pass- a sort of reverse political correctness. As long as they say it's a religious conviction- Then we are supposed respect - and not denounce it??? The war against the religious freaks is long overdue- at the least they all should be regularly denounced and ridiculed, and not given major tax deductions based on being a religious organization. Religions have damaged the world for too long.

      The price of anything is the amount of life we are willing to exchange for it.

      by theslinger on Sun Dec 22, 2013 at 04:10:03 PM PST

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