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  •  I anticipate Love All. Looks like this is it. (2+ / 0-)
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    Now they have the 2nd (safety net for sloppy) Amendment, and can't be infringed to actually treat their gun like a gun and not a video game controller.

    by 88kathy on Tue Dec 24, 2013 at 11:36:05 AM PST

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    •  Too bad there's no vote for Ronald Reagan (0+ / 0-)

      on Fox.

      1982-1984 in Lebanon was a historic military and political disaster.

      -- Israel invaded Lebanon in June of 1982. This was called the "Peace for Galilee" operation.

      -- Lebanese society disintegrated to a multiple militia civil war. Shia forces were split to a couple dozen independent local groups.

      -- United Nations Peacekeepers arrived in August, 1982. This included Americans with a force that peaked at 1,800 armed personnel.
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      Lying about these massacres is an essential element of the Reagan Fantasy. It's not just Fox. Here's Wiki at the 1982 Lebanon War article:

      Philip Habib, Ronald Reagan's envoy to Lebanon, provided an understanding (i.e., assurance) to the PLO that the Palestinian civilians in the refugee camps would not be harmed. However, the United States Marines left West Beirut two weeks before the end of their official mandate following the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing.

      On 14 September 1982, Bachir Gemayel, the newly elected President of Lebanon, was assassinated by Habib Shartouni of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party. Israeli forces occupied West Beirut the next day. At that time, the Lebanese Christian Militia, also known as the Phalangists, were allied with Israel. The Israeli command authorized the entrance of a force of approximately 150 Phalangist fighters' into the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps, claiming there was a remaining force of approximately "2000 PLO terrorists" in the camps. The result was the Sabra and Shatila massacre in which at least 800 civilians were killed by the Phalangists, who themselves suffered only two casualties. Meanwhile, Israeli troops surrounded the camps with tanks and checkpoints, monitoring entrances and exits.

      Really ???

      First thing, the body count at Sabra and Shatila ran to 3,500 including 800 children. The Christians brought bulldozers to bury the bodies, which were exhumed years later and provided more respectful burials.

      Second, Ronald Reagan removed the protection force of Marines from Sabra and Shatila with orders that he issued September 1st, 1982. That was 2 weeks before the massacres and a full 13 months before these Marines got bombed on October 23, 1983.

      Third, Reagan allied with these same Christian mass murderers.

      Militia actions featured mortar fire back and forth between militias. Reagan ordered American warships to fire 5" artillery barrages, but only at the non-Christian suburbs. One barrage landed 4,000 shells. After the U.S. embassy was bombed January 18, 1983, Reagan ordered battleship New Jersey over from Long Beach, California. This honey dropped as many as 298 and 300 16" artillery shells a day on non-Christian residential areas.

      Total deaths: 1,500 with 1,000,000+ forced to flee out to the east.

      Fourth, Shia "just retaliation" took 398 lives in 4 bombings with Iranian assistance. The U.S. embassy, the Marine barracks, the French barracks, and an office building in Tyre. All hit with thermobaric truck bombs -- PETN and blast-vaporized liquid butane.  

      Compare/contrast: Obama/2012/Libya vs. Reagan/1982-1984/Lebanon.

      Fifth, aftermath in Lebanon included all the Shia militias consolidating to one Iranian-influenced organization. That is the Hizb Allah -- usually misspelled here as "Hezbollah."

      Israel's Ariel Sharon wanted "forty years of peace." What he got was Hizb Allah and further radicalization of Iran with the 3,500 dead at Sabra and Shatila and Reagan's 1,500, plus Reagan allying with Saddam Hussein for the Iran-Iraq War (for no rational purpose whatsoever.)

      Fox News ????? None of that happened no more. Facts don't matter.

      •  I wish you had links for your 1-5, I want to (0+ / 0-)

        believe you are not exaggerating.

        Why don't you correct the Wiki article with links?

        Now they have the 2nd (safety net for sloppy) Amendment, and can't be infringed to actually treat their gun like a gun and not a video game controller.

        by 88kathy on Wed Dec 25, 2013 at 11:17:30 AM PST

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