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View Diary: Between Duck Dynasty and a new poll that puts the GOP 4 points up, I'm SO DISCOURAGED. (114 comments)

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  •  That poll was taken in the middle of November! (7+ / 0-)

    At the height of that crap about "you can keep your insurance." Since mid November, PPP and Wapo have both found Dems ahead. Not that you'll hear anything about those polls, though.

    •  Good to hear. (1+ / 0-)
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      And I appreciate the perspective. I still scratch my head about how the GOP's shut down of the government seems to have evaporated in the minds of many Americans, not to mention the whole rest of their dastardly deeds.

      I guess I'm just bewildered and scared by the success of the GOP despite their imo treasonous behavior, particularly since Barack Obama put his hand on the Bible.

      It makes me realize this isn't going to be easy, and no matter how much we all agree with each other here, too much of America is NOT on our page.

      .Just saying, we've got a mighty battle to fight next year, and we should all, after 2010, imo, be humble enough to be just a bit scared. Fear is not an inappropriate motivator. The GOP has always known that.

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Fri Dec 27, 2013 at 08:12:32 PM PST

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      •  Fear easily becomes discouragement. (1+ / 0-)
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        Discouragement keeps people from voting. I find hopeful diaries much more motivating than fearful ones.

        Here's something positive for you. My swing-voting brother and Republican SIL both support the ACA. They are self-insured and don't qualify for subsidies, and they still appreciate it and want it to work.

        They don't watch FOX or listen to right-wing radio, so they're not very partisan, but they do vote. My brother switches back and forth between R and D, though my SIL always votes R. Maybe not this time, though.

        •  Hey katesmom, (0+ / 0-)

          I really appreciate your positive words here. And the anecdotal news of your republican SIL and swing voting brother. Anecdotal news ads up and becomes word of mouth, and is very powerful.

          I too am self insured, don't qualify for subsidies, but have signed up for Obamacare, will save some money from what I've been paying, with far better parameters,  and really want the ACA to work until we can get better. Nice to know that there ARE those of us who agree across party lines.

          And I agree, fear can be discouraging, but the lack of fear is also threatening to being human. Fear alerts us. It's finding the balance between justifiable fear, and hope and optimism that is so darn hard.

          Frankly, there was a time long ago, when I called myself an independent, because I liked that thought, even though I almost always voted Democratic. It was fear of what the GOP had become that finally turned me into a hard core progressive. It was fear of NOT being committed to stopping them, lock stock and barrel that made me grab on to a partisan label, learn more, read more, discover more.

          That all happened long ago, and now I look back to that gal who once wanted to be "independent" and hardly recognize her.  Wish I could say it was because I just "got it" but really, it was justifiable fear that led me down the road I am now so happy to be on.

          "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

          by StellaRay on Fri Dec 27, 2013 at 09:37:33 PM PST

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          •  The poll was taken in December (1+ / 0-)
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            CNN does monthly polls. There has been a 13 point swing since the GOP shutdown. Are we surprised?

            •  Yes, a large swing (1+ / 0-)
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              they haven't managed until the aftermath of the shut down. Their poll ratings have been in the cellar for years. Seems a glitchy web site irritates the hell out of Americans. I know the GOP used it as an excuse to continue to beat their war drums against Obamacare, but when you consider that the vast majority of Americans don't need Obamacare, it blows my mind how many of them don't want those who do need it to have it, even though it's a purely capitalistic insurance pool.

              "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

              by StellaRay on Sat Dec 28, 2013 at 09:01:27 AM PST

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              •  Stella, the first thing we (0+ / 0-)

                have to do is own Obamacare and fix it. There are issues with it that the White House and Congressional Leaders will  not acknowledge for fear of GOP gloating and/or pride etc...
                The GOP will make hay no matter what we do.

                If they let our vulnerable Dems hang out here alone, we will pay the price.

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