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    Several million pounds of DU went out the smokestacks at the Fernald uranium processing plant, enough to make any battlefield expenditures look insignificant. Strangely, that did not turn southwestern Ohio into an uninhabitable wasteland.

    The CDC tracks the local population, and they're not finding anything. Possible a slight cancer increase, but also possibly just statistical noise. That kills the "DU is the worst poison ever!" theory.

    •  DU (0+ / 0-)

      is more dangerous toxicologically than from radiation exposure, by about a factor of 10^6

      http://www.sciencedirect.com/...

    •  You've misrepresented the CDC, among others. (4+ / 0-)

      I think the technical, scientific word is 'making shit up'.

      Here's facts on the ground:

      People who lived near the Fernald uranium processing plant are still developing some forms of cancer at higher-than-expected rates even though the plant closed years ago, according to a medical report released Wednesday.

              High rates of urinary cancers, melanoma and prostate cancer were reported in a “preliminary” analysis of more than 8,500 Fernald neighbors who have participated in a court-established medical monitoring program. The analysis was conducted by University of Cincinnati researchers.

              And according to a separate study released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), radiation emitted from the site could cause an elevated incidence of leukemia among people who lived within 6.2 miles of the site while it was operating between 1951 and 1988.

              “When it comes to real cases of people dying, there's no denying that,” said Bob Hanavan, who represents residents of the Fernald Health Effects Subcommittee. “I feel kind of vindicated by these numbers.

              “It's real obvious to people living around here that something is terribly wrong.”

              These reports significantly expand the types of health risks that may be associated with the Fernald plant. Activists have contended for years that Fernald is linked to a variety of illnesses. But until now, the only health risk experts have linked to Fernald has been lung cancer.

              “We're always apprehensive when we hear there's a little higher incidence of this and of that ... we've been saying for 15 years that this was the case,” said Lisa Crawford, founder of Fernald Residents For Environmental Safety and Health.

              “So while it's still painful and we hate to hear it, we expect it. We're kind of shock-proof at this point.”

              To experts, the new data on kidney and bladder cancers represented the strongest possible link to Fernald, in part because the statistics held up against several tests and because studies at other nuclear weapons sites have found similar results.

      Here's what the LA Times said about about Fernald, OH in 2009
      Nobody can ever safely live here, federal scientists say, and the site will have to be closely monitored essentially forever.

      Fernald is part of the toxic legacy of the Cold War, one component in a vast complex of research labs, raw material mills, weapons production plants and other facilities that once supplied the nation's nuclear arsenal.

      Today, these sites pose a staggering political, environmental and economic challenge. They harbor wastes so toxic that the best cleanups, such as the eight-year effort at Fernald, can do no more than contain the danger. ...The radioactive byproducts entombed at places like Fernald will remain hazardous for thousands of years. ...

      You think it's just a wild coincidence that the two places in Iraq and the one in Afghanistan where we know that heavy DU use happened in our wars have an explosion of deformities and cancers?

      I suspect nuke advocates buy into things like the Death Valley Ski Resort at a rate unmatched by any other demographic.


      Actual Democrats: the surest, quickest, route to More Democrats. And actually addressing our various emergencies.

      by Jim P on Wed Jan 01, 2014 at 03:48:32 PM PST

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      •  You're running from the issue, (0+ / 0-)

        I'll simplify it for you.

        If DU is the worst poison ever, the whole of southwest Ohio should be one big sea of cancers and horrid deformities, not just "maybe there's a cancer cluster right in Fernald, but we're not positive."

        Southwest Ohio does not have such problems.

        Hence, your DU theory is debunked.

        If you disagree, demonstrate the flaw in the logic. If you can't, you really owe me an apology for calling me a liar.

        •  Step 1 - when others speak insert fingers in ears; (1+ / 0-)
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          Step 2 -say LALALALALALALA very loudly until they stop;
          Step 3 - reiterate talking points in full;

          Lather, rinse repeat.

          trying to stay alive 'til I reach 65!

          by chmood on Thu Jan 02, 2014 at 07:58:24 AM PST

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