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    then why primary a Dem if none can be believed?

    Would it not be better to separate those with some credibility and those with none?

    Another shining sphere flies from Feior's hands, and you are frozen where you stand

    by GideonAB on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 10:44:38 AM PST

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    •  Why vote for a Dem if none can be believed? (1+ / 0-)
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      Seriously.

      I believe in Elizabeth Warren, Jeff Merkley and Bernie Sanders right now.

      What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

      by TerryDarc on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 10:48:17 AM PST

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        •  Would have gotten out of my deathbed (1+ / 0-)
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          to vote for BHO. I understand what you're saying and I'd probably do the same for HRC but not with a lot of enthu$ia$m if you catch my drift.

          What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

          by TerryDarc on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 01:10:41 PM PST

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      •  For me (0+ / 0-)

        A clear a rule of thumb is whether they are discussing the issues or merely pandering to donors (the middle class). For complex reasons, if they are focused exclusive on the middle class, they are absolutely not progressive.They are merely pandering. They know that it is not possible to rebuild the middle class out of thin air, ignoring poverty, as Sanders and Warren have chosen to do.  Both very abruptly stopped standing with the American people to careful (repeatedly) stress that they stand ONLY with those who have incomes over roughly $35k. It is the most blatant elitism, and this agenda virtually guarantees that the next president will be a Republican (assuming a successful Clinton coup, pushing out Vice President Joe Biden).  The middle class has been getting phased out for years, and the Clinton Dems have been poison for the masses of working poor and those who are far worse off.

      •  Merkley? (0+ / 0-)

        I wouldn't be so sure of Merkley.   I'm in OR and have tried (along w/others) to get his assistance re: issues connected to a Navy DEIS and he was not helpful in the long run.   Just not interested.

        He has no problems w/OR becoming much more involved w/the MIC then it has been.   Pro wave energy subsidies even if the sites will interfere w/the commercial fisheries--and so far, wave energy in OR has been nothing but subsidies.  

    •  Actions speak louder than words. (3+ / 0-)
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      As our MBs always says......."don't tell me what you think, show me what you do, and I'll tell you what you think".  

      Words are cheap.

      What we need is a Democrat in the White House.

      by dkmich on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 11:43:44 AM PST

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    •  Because (0+ / 0-)

      Doing some research will show you who can't be trusted, based on their own records. Like all important decisions, you have to get as much info as possible, weigh all the factors, and try to determine which candidate's agenda would be in the nation's best interests.

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