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  •  you don't have to require a DL, but, it's (6+ / 0-)

    prima facie negligence to not check, and if you
    do check, it's prima facie evidence of good faith.

    If you sell a gun to a felon, you are a crook.
    How do you prove you aren't? You check their
    F reg on their DL.  If you wrote down who
    the buyer was, and the DL, well, if the gun turns
    up in a crime scene, and you show it wasn't you,
    well, bang instant, get out of jail free card.

    if you don't have any records, well, now you may
    find yourself in some s&*t.

    It's easy enough to add this endorsement to a State ID
    card,  but,  still..  That's a detail.

    I'd say of people who lawfully posess guns, i'd bet 95%
    of them posess Drivers licenses.

    •  Yes (3+ / 0-)

      In states which require DL/ID for voting, it would be hard for them to argue that a DL/ID isn't required for gun ownership/purchase.

    •  ^^^THIS - and a separate endorsement for (2+ / 0-)
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      Buckeye Nut Schell, Mickquinas

      handguns vs. long guns.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 11:34:21 AM PST

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      •  that's harder. (0+ / 0-)

        it's easy enough to pass a Strict Scrutiny test for
        a Firearm owners card/DL endorsement/State ID w/Firearms endorsement.

        1) Compelling Govt Interests

        2) Narrowly Tailored

        3) Least restrictive means

        The Rational Basis is helping reduce felons from getting
        guns and possessing guns along with Mentally Ill people

        Narrowly tailored because it doesn't impede the transactions,
        merely provides a simple vehicle for dealers to verify
        your background check, without forming a database or record. (This endorsement would apply to everything from antique weapons to hunting rifles to Mil-Spec).

        Least Restrictive means.  Doesn't apply any additional burden, on people because they need ID for so many basics.

        If you modified the Forms for a DL so that you came in
        wtiha  form, and you could either get the local sheriff or
        your doctor to sign it or the DMV people take the medical
        cert from your doctor.  

        Have the Medical cert be 2 parts Part 1) Applicant has no known medical conditions to restrict driving . Part 2) Applicant has no known medical conditions to restrict gun ownership

        Then the Legal part can be signed by the local sheriff
        or the DMV clerk can run your name and SSN on
        AFIS or PROMIS or other FBI databases.

        Then whenever you want to buy a gun, show your DL,
        and they verify you are 1) over 18, 2) not restricted.

        It'd be nice and simple.

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