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  •  What I know about organized sports could safely (7+ / 0-)

    fit on a postage stamp, but it seems to me that there is always a lot of superstitious nonsense attached to it.  I imagine that if a player were to come out and his team were to suffer any kind of problem, he would run the risk of being blamed for it, rightly or wrongly.  Kind of a Westboro Baptist Church "blame the gay" phenomenon.  

    Aghh!  There are so many brave people trying to take a stand for what's right here...and it's just too bad they can't find solid footing to stand on.    

    "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle stand like a rock." Attributed to T. Jefferson

    by koosah on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 10:06:51 AM PST

    •  I think we've seen that already (12+ / 0-)

      Consider the Miami Dolphins issue earlier this season. I don't know if it's about sexuality; educated (as in Stanford) can produce some of the same stuff - it looks the same but the  causes are different.

      Like the Westboro Baptist Church. Someone will ALWAYS care which is why stuff has to be done sooner.

      •  I stopped listening to one local (4+ / 0-)

        talk host when he started musing whether Jonathan Martin was the "gay athlete" everyone was talking about being ready to come out. (That was before the same host's meltdown about women in the sports media business.) The culture of bullying and "hazing" in the NFL is probably a major reason gay players are reluctant to come out before they retire.

        I still think that the NHL is going to be the first league with an out player (Jason Collins notwithstanding, until he gets picked up by another club), thanks to the work of the You Can Play Project. The one thing that concerns me is the religious culture in many sports locker rooms, with the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and other groups. There's nothing coercive about it, but many players show up to the pre-game prayer sessions for the camaraderie. Management would have to keep a close tab to make sure that out athletes weren't subject to harassment by ultra-fundamentalists.

        MLB had a gay player many years ago where it was an open secret amongst the teammates but they didn't really give a rat's ass...it was management that made a big stink about it.

        If you ever get a chance to see "Out: The Glenn Burke Story", I highly encourage it -- and it's a big reason why I hate Tommy Lasorda even more than I was obligated to as a San Francisco Giants fan.

        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 01:27:32 PM PST

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