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  •  thanks! (4+ / 0-)

    Having used it IRL, I can say that it does have some effect - not at all what creationists expect; they usually don't know what to say.

    •  Those who bother can look up stock answers (0+ / 0-)

      at Ken Ham's Answers in Genesis and other such sites. Every argument we can come up with has met a specious counterargument, often several. For example,

      Contradictions: Two Creation Accounts?

      Do Genesis 1 and 2 give different accounts?

       The difficulty with Genesis 2:19 lies with the use of the word formed. The same style is read in the KJV.

         And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them.
      The NIV has a subtly different rendition.
         Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them.
      The NIV suggests a different way of viewing the first two chapters of Genesis. Genesis 2 does not suggest a chronology. That is why the NIV suggests using the style “the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the fields.” Therefore, the animals being brought to Adam had already been made and were not being brought to him immediately after their creation. Interestingly, Tyndale agrees with the NIV—and Tyndale’s translation predates the KJV.
         The Lord God had made of the earth all manner of beasts of the field and all manner fowls of the air.
      You have to undermine the motivation for all of this, which is the notion that the Fall has to be historical in order for the Crucifixion and Resurrection to Redeem us. As though God can only forgive us by going through the bizarre charade of sacrificing himself bodily, in the form of his Son, to himself as Father, thus allowing himself as Holy Spirit to um, sorry, I lose the thread at that point. Ask one of them to explain it to you, and see how they do.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Sat Jan 04, 2014 at 11:37:31 PM PST

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