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  •  I miss Keith Olbermann (2+ / 0-)
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    His quick-wittedness is totally wasted in sports.

    I love Jonathan Turley for his ability to explain constitutional laws with all the simplicity of one of Thomas Jefferson's quotes.  I signed up for Turley's blog so I get any notices of new posts.

    Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure.
     ~ Thomas Jefferson

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 10:36:05 AM PST

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    •  Why do you think he's (1+ / 0-)
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      no longer on MSNBC?

      I haven't watched but a handful of times since he left. Does Turley still show up on that network anymore?

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 11:05:24 AM PST

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      •  I don't know... (2+ / 0-)
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        Well, I don't know the official reason(s).

        I suspect, however, that "the powers that be" could deal with Olbermann & Turley (& a small handful of other individuals banging the drums to go back to obeying the Constitution) as long as they were yammering about lying war criminals in the Bushista administration..., but the minute Olbermann & Turley started in on the unconstitutional and illegal things Obama and his administration were doing while initially following in Dumbya and Dickie's footsteps (even retaining many appointments Dumbya and Dickie had made), then proceeded to add to on their own (e.g. increased drone bombing), they had to silence both Olbermann & Turley and a few others no one hears from any longer - individuals who want the illegal and unconstitutional laws repealed, kill lists ended, torture ended, Gitmo closed, illegal and unconstitutional wars ended, et cetera and so on and so forth.

        I really, really hoped Obama would prove my estimation of him in '07/'08 wrong.  Alas, he's worse than I feared he'd be.

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 11:26:06 AM PST

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        •  The few times I've had it on since (1+ / 0-)
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          (and I stopped when Lawrence O'Donnell made his debut), I didn't see Turley.

          MSNBC hasn't been the same since Phil Griffin showed up. Not long after that happened, KO left. It's been all downhill since. Rachel and Chris are occasional bright spots that I keep up with elsewhere--their network does not broadcast in this house anymore, though, and it never will again.

          This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

          by lunachickie on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 12:38:28 PM PST

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          •  I turned my TV off permanently ... (1+ / 0-)
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            ... a few months ago, so have only ever seen MSNBC online.  I adamantly refuse to pay to get ads, more adamantly refuse to pay for "bundled" sports channels I'd never watch because I loathe sports and don't want even a penny of my money to go toward paying for something I'll never watch, so have never had cable (and will never get it).  Anyway, how many channels can one person watch?  In the summer I watched one show per week on Hulu (while it was on); Rookie Blue.  During fall/winter (so far), still fewer than six shows per week (almost zero through Dec), plus Jon Stewart & Stephen Colbert.

            If Scandal and The Blacklist persist in showing torture scenes (plus too many car crashes and shootings on the latter), I'm going to quit watching them.  Currently, they're normalizing torture as an everyday accepted behavior.  Ugh.  If they can't get their point across and keep the plot moving along with just dialogue and zero torture and very few gun fights and crashes and explosions, or change the dialogue to criticizing the government for torturing people as well as spying on us, they're useless as moral or ethical harbingers to get the US back to being a reasonable country in which to live and having decent "political leaders."

            I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

            by NonnyO on Sun Jan 05, 2014 at 01:13:40 PM PST

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