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  •  I would love to see (9+ / 0-)

    real analysis of what works.  The decline in key groups from '04 to '06 was almost identical to the decline in key groups from '08 to '10.

    Most of the analysis tends to be of the "well the base is disappointed " nonsense - which doesn't survive even a cursory analysis when you look back at previous non-presidential elections.

    Anyone got ideas?

    •  Remind Dems that they are in a fight just to (4+ / 0-)
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      preserve their voting rights from the onslaught of GOP state election mischief.  Being able to go into the polls saying, "Oh no you don't, buster," and coming out of the polls with that "Take that, buster," feeling would be effective.  It speaks to our feelings of personal empowerment and unity with the party that serves us best, albeit flimsy unity in some cases.

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      by judyms9 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 at 08:52:29 AM PST

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    •  The old City Machines... (2+ / 0-)
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      Were very effective at GOTV.  It's a pretty simple system.  The machine is centered around the party.  The party distributes the spoils of winning to people who work for the machine.  So there's a reward for dragging people out of their homes to put down their name.

      There's also the way the big ranchers did it in Texas along the border. First, set yourself up as a local king of the population, in control of the government and voting mechanisms.  When it's time to vote, you just vote for them - so-called block voting.   Bam, 98-100% turnout, depending on how many votes the guy running for office needs.

      Oh, you mean a good, non-corrupt way?  Oh.  Well, we're pretty much stuck with identifying potential voters, getting them interested in voting, and getting them to their polling location (while hoping it doesn't rain that day).  At least until we figure out online voting, weekend voting, or mandatory voting, I guess.

      •  Vote-by-mail (1+ / 0-)
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        works pretty well in Oregon.  And I'm a permanent absentee voter in California - very easy.

        •  I love vote by mail! (0+ / 0-)

          I just moved to Alaska, and will have to figure out how to vote in a polling station. I've only did it once before, as a 19 year-old in Wisconsin, 18 years ago.

          During those 18 years in between, I didn't miss the primary when I was in the hospital. I didn't have to take nursing babies to the polls between 2000-2003, or with rambunctious toddlers in the years after that. When my son started kindergarten, he started "helping" us vote, and knocking on doors to remind people to vote, (and accepting completed ballots to turn in, if requested) has been our definition of "getting out the vote."

          Oregon's system isn't perfect, and rates are still low for non-Presidential election. I think that there are lots of things to be learned from Oregon's vote-by-mail, especially in rural areas. I really don't understand why we are surprised that turnout among poor, rural voters is low, when we have elections on a workday. Voter suppression laws just make this dynamic worse, but without fighting to changing the day of the election, (or having it be a national holiday) we will always have people who choose to work and support their families, unless they see the election as directly impacting them.

          (Okay, sorry to ramble. I do think that there needs to be a combination of changes to how we vote, and giving voters people who they really want to vote for, rather than voting against the other guy who is worse.)

    •  Encourage absentee voting? (2+ / 0-)
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      And then go around collecting ballots to make sure people actually fill it out? In my county, someone other than the voter can transport a ballot as long as they sign the envelope in the proper place as a ballot transport.

      If that isn't legal in your county, go around to people who vote absentee a week or two before the election and carry postage. Encourage the voter to fill out their ballot and you apply proper postage and assist the voter in taking it to the mailbox.

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      by pucklady on Wed Jan 08, 2014 at 10:26:58 AM PST

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    •  I can tell you one thing about VA (2+ / 0-)
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      The party operatives do not talk to each other from precinct to precinct.  There is NO regional coordination.  

      In 2012, I worked on a Congressional campaign in a heavily populated (and demographically changing) district.  There was a TON of Obama lit.  Very little on the Congressional level, mostly because the precinct captains did not coordinate which precinct belonged to which candidate.

      So all of the OFA help that poured into the got Obama elected but there were no coattails whatsoever--unless the candidate was strong to begin with.

      This same candidate should be ramping up his campaign.  Crickets.  Nothing.  No candidate is stepping up to take on the incumbent.  Ridiculous.

      •  In Florida (0+ / 0-)

        OFA didn't really coordinate with other candidates. It is wrong to say they were no coatails, though, since OFA turned out voters who would vote Democratic in other races as well.

        But the 2012 effort had fewer volunteers than in 2008 in Fl - and certainly the efforts didn't help in 2010.

        I am not sure to what extent a ground organization can fix this problem - though I would sure like to try.

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