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  •  I don't think it's the most Right Wing thing I've (7+ / 0-)

    seen here, but I do think it is one of the best illustrations of an Establishment piece we have.

    I also saw the disingenuous parts and RW framing - but that's Establishment stuff - it's what serious people say.

    Don't hate the playa hate the game.

    We're supposed to argue about the legalese - the logical fallacies - the byzantine lawyerly and scholarly stuff. If we're nibbling and quibbling around the edges of this all the better.

    The winning arguments are these:
    the NSA is a public-private partnership - like Fannie Mae. Government secrets meets corporate profits with omniscient spying capability. What could possibly go wrong?

    The NSA does not protect citizens, it protects the State and "national interests". Protecting the citizen has nothing to do with it.

    This technology is about controlling populations and individuals, the end.

    So, bob, I think that is where the dialogue has to take place. People know the NSA spies on people, but I don't think they know that it's corporate and profits are going down. I don't think they know the full capability. I don't think they know the realpolitik of the situation.

    Keeping us whining about logical fallacies and navigating and cross referencing legislation keeps us away from these, far more base level aspects of this issue. If this foundation (frame) is laid appropriately, then all kinds of movement immediately happens, and understanding is transformed.

    I think that's important for all of us who sit on the wrong side of the Establishment to keep in mind and try to practice.


    Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

    by k9disc on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 09:20:52 AM PST

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