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  •  Somehow "plutocracy" seems to imply a level... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...of active engagement very few of "the rich" actually have or ever witness.  

    There are a few billionaire plutocrats proud of their powers but they don't "run" the country, although not for lack of trying. There are a lot of very rich Americans. It just seems to me to be critical to find better ways to describe the dangerous, expensive, inefficient, unsustainable hard and firm merger between money and gov't to make it real to Americans.  

    •  A newer term with a bit more bite... (5+ / 0-) Robber Barons, but that's more than a century old. The truth is we need different terms and approaches for different audiences.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Wed Jan 08, 2014 at 04:26:47 PM PST

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    •  I think people have to see that part of it, (1+ / 0-)
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      the active machinations of industry groups and the like before you can make the Plutocrat moniker stick.

      Look at this place. You have those on the left who are dissatisfied with the current hegemony who are on board with the idea of an actual Plutocracy - 30-100 individuals, real and artificial, who really make the moves that move the planet.

      Of course we're on board with a War on the Plutocracy... Duh!

      But I'm with you that most people don't see the active, hand-tenting and mustache twisting that we do. Or they don't see the well subsidized and ginormous social, economic, and ecological footprint from a Bechtel or a Nestle. And then there are industry groups... sheesh...

      I think people have to be brought this information on a more subtle than warfare footing.

      You don't go to war without knowing whom you are fighting.

      Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

      by k9disc on Wed Jan 08, 2014 at 04:37:29 PM PST

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      •  And it's so insidiously linked to values... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...and knowledge, naturally good things, most of us are convince we're trying to be the best we can, and it insulates the rich from any fruits of whatever little introspection they do or regular challenge to the silos of privilege.

        Maybe we need a common check does this thought/issue/vote/tax loophole impact this or that person/institution/metric...a dashboard of metrics with impact analysis...kind of a common civics view rather than our own little circle views. A democracy dashboard or a plutocracy prevention checklist. And we really have to aim for the children.

        •  Well that certainly would benefit the step by step (0+ / 0-)

          type thinkers because continuing to try to show them the big picture doesn't work.

          I don't think I would care too much for it, but it could be valuable: dialing in and focusing on smaller parts of the big picture and allowing that tuning over the course of the whole image.

          I hope that makes sense, as I think that's where you were going right?

          Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

          by k9disc on Wed Jan 08, 2014 at 05:00:44 PM PST

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        •  Oh, and I don't think you need to focus on the (0+ / 0-)

          children. You need to focus on simple truths.

          That's what people want and need - maxims.  

          What a great idea for an App. Call it the Democracy Dashboard.

          Wrap it up with a national "shop local" database and make it happen.

          Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

          by k9disc on Wed Jan 08, 2014 at 05:04:29 PM PST

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