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  •  The subject of this story (6+ / 0-)

    was not being charged in a criminal courtroom, for chrissakes. He was supposed to speak before a legislative committee that does not sentence people to prison or deprive people of liberty, rights, or due process.

    'Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive' - VP Joe Biden

    by RobertInWisconsin on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 11:17:18 AM PST

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    •  the comment I replied to didn't have that nuance (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Suspicious, Yes, But... (2+ / 0-)
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      The subject of this story was not being charged in a criminal courtroom... He was supposed to speak before a legislative committee that does not sentence people to prison or deprive people of liberty, rights, or due process.
      Yes, but what if his attorney has advised him that answering certain questions would expose him to (further?) criminal prosecution? Or that certain answers might expose him and/or the state (NJ) to (further?) civil liability?

      If he has something to hide in the area of criminal liability, keeping that close at hand could come in handy if it gets to any plea bargain situation if criminal charges are filed.

      You meet them halfway with love, peace, and persuasion ~ And expect them to rise for the occasion...

      by paz3 on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 11:33:14 AM PST

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    •  But what you say under oath to… (4+ / 0-)
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      …that legislative committee can be used as evidence against you in a court of law.

      •  IANAL (1+ / 0-)
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        But sorry I don't read the 5th that way. The pertinent part of the 5th says that people cannot compelled to testify against themselves in a criminal case. Speaking to a legislative committee is not the same as going into a courtroom to answer criminal charges. I just don't see the connection here.

        Otherwise the 5th could apply to what people say in e-mails too, then ?

        'Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive' - VP Joe Biden

        by RobertInWisconsin on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 12:01:46 PM PST

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    •  According to the chair he was there to confirm (0+ / 0-)

      evidence the committee had on hand. Also to expand on whether there were private meetings relevant to the emails/texts and who attended them. Also explain why so much was redacted by Wildstein's lawyers before handing over the documents. All this will eventually come out but not from Wildstein.

      To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Thu Jan 09, 2014 at 12:51:08 PM PST

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    •  But that testimony can be used against him (0+ / 0-)

      in a subsequent criminal proceeding that very much has the power to sentence him to prison.

      And it might force him to testify in the criminal proceeding as well, on the grounds that he'd already answered the same or comparable questions in a different public forum and had waived his right to remain silent.

      Taking the 5th today was the completely logical and sane thing to do, and does not reflect on anyone's guilt -- in most states, prosecutors aren't allowed to comment to the jury on someone's invoking the 5th.

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