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  •  I feel like there's some wishful thinking (3+ / 0-)
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    Justina, Geminijen, NY brit expat

    going on when I read things like this:

    Personally I think that by working together -- unions and the cooperative movement -- they each guard against the potential nonrevolutionary dangers  of the other and the class struggle as a whole comes out stronger for their newly formed alliance.
    Could you elaborate on this?

    If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

    by AoT on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 07:16:43 PM PST

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    •  Nessecity makes strange bedfellows., With the (3+ / 0-)
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      AoT, NY brit expat, Justina

      increasing loss of jobs due to technological changes and outsourcing through globalization, we have ended up with large pockets of unemployed workers in all countries who have no companies within which they could try to organize a union. Some unions in the US like the Steelworkers have recognized this and are trying to support the development of coops both as job creators and a new form of organizing worker solidarity.  They are still suspicious that coops have been generally used by bosses to bust unions by offering workers worker ownership without democratic control (generally this is to the detriment of workers), so they insist on a hybrid model that includes a union in the coop.

      Mondragon didn't used to allow unions but had a social committee that was supposed to deal with worker grievances. Over time, usually when the coops developed larger economies of scale and the relationship between the coop management and the regular worker became more distant, the social committee was insufficient - otherwise workers would not have to strike as they did at ULGOR, a Mondragon coop, in 2009.

      One of the problems of coops is getting capital which unions can now provide. Better to get the money from unions which come with a worker ethos, than capitalist banks. Unions can now educate and organize a new group of workers with a workers solidarity consciousness that are in coops. And it does provide jobs This crossfertilization is just starting (much more developed in other countries than the US)although it also has a history in the past century.

      We'll just have to wait and see what happens, but we need some changes in our model and new models if the labor movement is to survive globalization. (Mondragon and the Steelworkers Union now have some joint projects)

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    •  C link below for benefits of labor-union alliance (4+ / 0-)
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      Unca Joseph, NY brit expat, AoT, Justina

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