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  •  Nothing like the possibility that you, or your kid (9+ / 0-)

    might actually have to go to focus the attention on the ill wisdom of a war.

    It's way too easy to send other people's kids.

    Great to see you too, BigAl!

    War beats down, and sows with salt, the hearts and minds of soldiers." Brecht

    by DaNang65 on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 03:52:04 PM PST

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    •  been a long time since I have run into you in a (5+ / 0-)

      diary, DaNang, how are you?

      For our fallen solders who come home from Afghanistan to Dover AF mortuary, "God bless the cause of "The Good War" for which they died" - As if any war can be called Good in its 13th year, America's longest war.

      by allenjo on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 04:12:08 PM PST

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    •  I honestly believe that to be overplayed. If (1+ / 0-)
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      the Vietmnam era is any measure, most Americans are quite happy to go and to see their kids go. Too much nationalist, jingoist, imperialist bullshit on T and in the Movies and in our history books, etc.

      That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

      by enhydra lutris on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 09:07:58 PM PST

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      •  You may be correct, but I believe the eras are not (4+ / 0-)

        directly analogous. Perhaps not even fairly comparable. The Sixties presented a set of circumstances far different than the present, the so called "Greatest Generation" (pardon me while I spit) who had "won World War II" were locked in a culture war with their own children, the Baby Boomers who, in Dylan's words, were "beyond (their) command."

        We tend to overlook major differences between WWII and Viet Nam - the near universal participation, including the home front through rationing, etc. of the former; the pardon the pun "Selective" participation in Viet Nam where many kept up their C gpa or got drafted, with guns and butter at home.

        Compare the relative durations. WWII was relatively brief, even in the Pacific theater where major fighting ran barely three and half years, far less in the European theater, where the bulk of the fighting, between D-Day and VE Day, spanned barely eleven months. In Viet Nam, by comparison, three years marks roughly the time span from the initial build up of combat troops beginning in March 1965 to the Tet offensive in February 1968.

        Not coincidentally 1968 was the year the antiwar movement reached its peak and the Democratic National Convention turned into a police riot.

        War beats down, and sows with salt, the hearts and minds of soldiers." Brecht

        by DaNang65 on Sat Jan 11, 2014 at 10:32:05 PM PST

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