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  •  thnx 4 link!! will send to local tv stations with (10+ / 0-)

    another note "why aren't you reporting on the water supply & shortage in every single weather report?" and etc that i put in those notes.  i do hate those "thanks for your support" replies, 'tho.  but still, needs must when the devil drives.

    •  Director at Sierra Club Pac fundraiser said (8+ / 0-)

      that people get mislead by flooding or a big snow, but NM has areas that are still in extreme drought so your suggestions is a great one.

      will send to local tv stations with (2+ / 0-)

      another note "why aren't you reporting on the water supply & shortage in every single weather report?" and etc that i put in those notes.

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      by divineorder on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 06:37:55 PM PST

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      •  we really need a technology that saves floodwater. (5+ / 0-)

        it's the "spare" supply, after all.  i'm guessing the NM geologic structure isn't very dammable?

        in the NearEast & MiddleEast, the eons-ago highwater level of the mediterranean ate away at the strata face-on toward the Med, leaving only the edges, with the result that modern-era dams attempted in Israel, Lebanon, etc, couldn't prevent the dammed water seeping down below useful water-table levels and no reservoirs much to speak of.    the deforestation of the region during the empires of Rome 'thru Ottoman eliminated shallower water-holding & to significant extent created the deserts that formerly were just "wilderness".  I've read criticisms of well-digging by the peace corp around the edges of the Sahara, theorizing that those wells accelerated the desertification of the area.  But the wells reflect of course, as any place on earth, that we've got more & more people on the planet all the time and we haven't done nearly enough reforestation.  One of the key roots [pardon the pun] of Israel's successes is that ancient traditions of planting trees and more trees and more trees reforested the terrain and conserved water far more than anyone expected originally when tree planting began in the 1800's.  Be'er Sheva isn't even in desert anymore, i was astonished to see the last time i was there!!!!   but that century-plus of reforestation was bucket-by-bucket watering in the early years, hand-carried and donkey carried, in an era when water conservation on a personal level was more understood and practiced because piped water was not yet taken for granted enough for casual waste to be the rule rather than the exception and people who came to plant and nurture trees were habitually far more careful than westerners are now.

        oop, i went on a bit again.  ok stopping now...

        •  Interesting. FWIW that flooding is natures way of (2+ / 0-)
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          flushing the ecosystem.  Damns should be removed everywhere so that natural systems can return to balance.

          History of the River Restoration Movement - Glen Canyon Institute
          Did you know the health of the gulf fisheries depends on fresh water nurseries and in recent years the Rio Grande river has not even made it to the sea?

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          by divineorder on Sun Jan 12, 2014 at 08:22:34 PM PST

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          •  yes i've seen/read a little about that. had the (2+ / 0-)
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            impression that the looting rerouting of water from the colorado river to mistakenly overdeveloped areas like los angeles is both a major ecological disaster of many decades and a major human disaster.

            my thinking about storm-caused flooding and water that might be salvaged from those floods incorrectly associated catastrophic midwest floods (from which it's my understanding there is no significant salvage along the way to the Gulf - no replenishing of local lakes/reservoirs or wetlands which cushion flood effects [i believe teddy roosevelt was an advocate of sustaining wetlands for that among other reasons] far less channeling beyond) with flashfloods and minor floods in parts of southern california such as los angeles (from which it's my understanding the water goes unsalvaged into drainage systems/sewer systems thence the ocean which seems poor policy for a region that has drained so many others) which in places are visually similar enough to parts of the Mojave Desert that my off-the-cuff comment was poor on specifics.

            i should know better, since i live in an area with pretty disastrous aquifer situation itself.

            thanks for the correction.  each ecology has its specifics that need to be carefully attended to for life that depends upon it to be sustained.

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