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  •  Funny, I was just thinking about this (5+ / 0-)

    although in a bit of a parallel track from your diary.

    It boils down to the fact that we as a society have lost both the ability to discern what actions or inactions justify legitimate outrage and to respond to it effectively in any corrective and positive manner.

    I personally would trace this back to the day we discovered we were torturing people at the behest of those holding our highest offices No one of any note ever suffered any negative consequence. We abandoned the Rule of Law and as babies in the same bathtub, we threw out all of our humanity and our veneer of being civilized.

    Once we accepted that, I am starting to believe that we all recognized, whether we want to admit it or not, that we are all inhabitants of a country that has openly embraced Social Darwinism as its only real constraint and the law of the land.

    If you or your company or your position is big enough or strong enough or rich enough or influential enough you will basically be able to do anything you want: you can torture, you can invade countries on false pretenses, you can deny people their votes, you can swindle people out of their homes, you can bilk bond holders, you can transfer the wealth of the many to the few- these are just some of the things we have accepted without a whimper as a society.

    So given our past history, it may actually be surprising to some that a body politic that has accepted all of the above is rising for the first time in a long time and a politician may be made to suffer and face the music because we have collectively finally stumbled on the absolute lower limits of our toleration:


    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Mon Jan 13, 2014 at 10:22:22 AM PST

    •  Began before that; it started with slavery & the (1+ / 0-)
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      Extermination of the native people.

      What followed makes sense to me. I against torture but what about the death penalty?

      As long as someone else gets screwed, Americans are ok with it

      nosotros no somos estúpidos

      by a2nite on Mon Jan 13, 2014 at 10:33:49 AM PST

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      •  I agree that slavery was our original sin (0+ / 0-)

        but I was talking about what turned us in the modern era to the clueless, drifting, rudderless, lawless society we appear to be.

        The death penalty (which I am and have always been adamantly against) is at least clothed in the framework of the Rule of Law.

        Torture on the other hand, beside being outside the established Rule of Law and the Geneva Conventions and military codes was simply accepted as being outside any code of CIVILIZED conduct and was strictly the purview of serial killers, sociopaths, and Third World Dictators.

        I think our ladder of acceptance had many rungs, but once we accepted that (torture), we really don't have anything worse to accept.

        “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

        by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Mon Jan 13, 2014 at 10:50:16 AM PST

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    •  Nixon's pardon and Iran-Contra (2+ / 0-)
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      was the beginning of the end of "consequences" for dirty political dealings.  Then, having Newty Gingrich going on and on about "making politics a crime" in the 1990's cemented that trend.

      We see it today, again, with Brit Hume's ridiculous comments about "man's man" and" this is just how the game is played".

      Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

      by PsychoSavannah on Mon Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35:15 AM PST

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